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>> No. 4917 Anonymous
30th July 2013
Tuesday 6:01 pm
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Sounds like the knob-jockeys need to man up.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/jul/30/liverpool-unacceptable-words-discrimination
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>> No. 9885 Anonymous
30th June 2022
Thursday 10:59 pm
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>>9880
Already there is some level of denying people a platform, and it's made things worse on this occasion. I had to look quite hard to find anyone repeating what Nelson Piquet actually called Lewis Hamilton, because every news source was too open-mouthed in horror to tell me. I'll spoiler it to protect the delicate, but you'd assume it was nigger, right? It turns out the word he actually used was the Portuguese term "neguinho", which is sometimes translated as nigga but is generally seen as not that offensive or hateful, really. But there can't be a debate, because everyone in the media is clutching their rosary beads and averting their eyes. If Brazilians don't care at all, does that mean the word is actually fine, or does it mean Brazilians are filthy racists? We'll never know, because the discussion has been shut down and we can't ask questions now.
>> No. 9886 Anonymous
30th June 2022
Thursday 11:22 pm
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>>9885

It's like that time the footballer Edinson Cavani got banned by the FA for saying "Gracias Negrito" to his mate on an Instagram post. F1 corporate suits with zero knowledge of Brazilian culture or Brazilian Portuguese are decreeing that someone needs to be shamed and unpersoned because they said a word that sounds a bit like "the bad word" in English. Also, Lewis throwing a tizzy about the whole thing seems like a desperate attempt to deflect attention form his abysmal performances this season.
>> No. 9887 Anonymous
30th June 2022
Thursday 11:55 pm
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>>9882
It's very hypocritical, what with Brazilians also living in the jungle and sticking bones through their noses and eating people. Where's the unity?
>> No. 9889 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 12:23 am
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>>9887

Those Sentinelese are the worst for that, how dare they kill and (possibly eat) people who want to make friends with them before even buying pegs or lucky heather first.
>> No. 9890 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 12:28 am
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>>9885
>>9886
Fucking hell, now who's being overly dramatic? "We can't ask questions", "shamed and unpersoned" and a "desperate attempt to deflect attention", you pair sound like you've lost the plot. I've no problem with you pair of massive racists thinking the UK media are being a touch hysterical, but there's no need to piss yourself and start claiming far, far more outlandish bollocks than any newspaper has done. Nelson Piquet "unpersoned"? Spare me the hyperbole, will you?
>> No. 9891 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 12:35 am
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>>9885
Brazilians don't really like the Piquet family. They are conservatives who back Bolsonaro, and silly snake-oil remedies that anti-vaxxers love. Even though he is a triple world champion, everyone hates him and can never reach Senna's status in Brazil. Brazilians like Hamilton more than all of the Piquet family. Nelson still calls Senna a flaming faggot up to this day.

As for the word - it can be used between close groups of friends. It has generally fallen out of favour and viewed as an offensive word. But, if you listen to the whole thing, what is weird is how he calls every driver by their name, but calls Hamilton "that nigger." So it is very obvious what he was doing.

Also, Kelly Piquet can't speak Portuguese.
>> No. 9892 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 12:40 am
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>>9890

Awww, I bet you were crying for ARE SIR SAINT MARCUS RASHFORD MBE when a few russian bots sent him emojis on Instagram and the shrine built in his honor was unspeakably defaced with a bit of graffiti, you woke lefties are hilarious.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 9893 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 12:54 am
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>>9892
What a profoundly embarrassing way to conduct oneself in this, the forum of gentlepersons.
>> No. 9895 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 5:56 am
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>>9892

You do not belong here.
>> No. 9896 Anonymous
1st July 2022
Friday 6:24 am
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>>9886
The Cavani one was bollocks, but this one is definitely questionable.

The closest translation in context would be Piquet calling Hamilton "the little blacky" after referring to every other driver by name. The term in itself isn't necessarily offensive, but the context in which it was used almost certainly was.
>> No. 9897 Anonymous
29th July 2022
Friday 8:35 am
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>A Premier League player arrested on suspicion of rape is no longer being investigated by police over one of the three alleged incidents.

>The 29-year-old, who has not been named, was initially taken into custody earlier this month over an alleged attack in June. He was then questioned over two further rape allegations against a different woman, one in April 2021 and one in June 2021.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62342653

It has been zero days since there has been a rapey footballer story in the news.
>> No. 9900 Anonymous
3rd August 2022
Wednesday 8:12 pm
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Southend have sold the naming rights to the West stand of their stadium to local firm Gilbert & Rose, the Gilbert & Rose West stand.
>> No. 9904 Anonymous
2nd September 2022
Friday 8:26 am
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I don't know if Gary Neville will be able to avoid contempt of court for posting this on the first day of Giggsy's trial; his defence is that it was about the Glazers.
>> No. 10113 Anonymous
2nd February 2023
Thursday 7:56 pm
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>Charges of attempted rape and assault have been dropped against Manchester United footballer Mason Greenwood.

>The 21-year-old was arrested in January 2022 amid allegations surrounding images and videos. He was later charged with attempted rape, controlling and coercive behaviour and assault occasioning actual bodily harm.

>In a statement, Greenwood said he was "relieved" and thanked his family and friends for supporting him.

>The Crown Prosecution Service said the charges were discontinued after key witnesses withdrew their involvement.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-64502021

This is gonna be a right shitshow.
>> No. 10114 Anonymous
10th March 2023
Friday 9:31 pm
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Quite funny watching the fallout from Lineker not doing Match of the Day.
>> No. 10115 Anonymous
10th March 2023
Friday 11:51 pm
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>>10114
I never could never have imagined Brexit would lead directly to a wildcat strike of MotD hosts almost seven years after the referendum. It's also quite alarming that even in it's half-dead state, the goverment feels emboldened to throw it's weight around with the BBC like this, or perhaps it's because they're so beaten up they're behaving like this. Regardless it makes me uncomfortable.
>> No. 10116 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:09 am
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>>10115
It's about the boat people and comparing the Government to Nazi Germany isn't it?

Surprised Lineker lasted this long to be honest. He's never shied away from the immigration debate and his Goalhanger production company always seems a bit odd for a BBC presenter to be running given Rest is Politics is a deliberate political vehicle.
>> No. 10117 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 7:11 am
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>>10115
Slippery slope of totalitarianism innit.

When labour was in power the tories constantly complained about BBC bias against them, once they got into power they began the process of swapping out senior management with their allies, tweaking editorial rules and guidelines, making threats of defunding, all the while their right ring press allies keep up pushing out rhetoric about the BBC being biased.

Its impossible to put your finger on the one point where the tories started to control the BBC outright because its such a gradual process. Now we're at the point where presenters and journalists will get kicked out for being critical of the government on the pretext of not being impartial.
>> No. 10118 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 7:57 am
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>>10116

>Surprised Lineker lasted this long to be honest. He's never shied away from the immigration debate and his Goalhanger production company always seems a bit odd for a BBC presenter to be running given Rest is Politics is a deliberate political vehicle.

Andrew Neil presented the BBC's flagship politics programme while also serving as the chairman of The Spectator. The current chairman of the BBC is a major donor to the Conservative party and the current Director General has previously stood for election as a Conservative candidate.

This isn't about impartiality; nobody has suggested that Lineker's output at the BBC is biased by his political views, because that'd be patently absurd. It is, as >>10117 suggests, an insidious coup of the national broadcaster.

As regards The Rest is Politics, it's very telling that a programme that is co-presented by a former Tory minister could be seen as anti-Tory. The Rt. Hon. Rory Stewart OBE is practically a caricature of the Tory establishment - Eton educated, read PPE at Oxford, worked as a private tutor to Prince William and Harry, brief stint in the army before becoming a diplomat, rumoured to have worked for MI6 - but he is now seen by some as a lefty because of the Tory party's wild shift towards the populist Right. He supports fox hunting for crying out loud.
>> No. 10119 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 9:32 am
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>>10118

>He supports fox hunting for crying out loud.

Everyone has that one issue they are wildly irrational about, and for me this is it. I would happily garotte any hunt supporter with rusty barbed wire.
>> No. 10120 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 1:52 pm
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>>10118
I don't think Andrew Neil has ever compared anyone to the Nazis though.

I think the current frothing about the BBC from the cosmopolitan left is very telling on its commitment to impartiality. Next month it will be back to bashing from the right-wing.

>As regards The Rest is Politics, it's very telling that a programme that is co-presented by a former Tory minister could be seen as anti-Tory. The Rt. Hon. Rory Stewart OBE is practically a caricature of the Tory establishment - Eton educated, read PPE at Oxford, worked as a private tutor to Prince William and Harry, brief stint in the army before becoming a diplomat, rumoured to have worked for MI6 - but he is now seen by some as a lefty because of the Tory party's wild shift towards the populist Right. He supports fox hunting for crying out loud.

By design. Both Alastair Campbell and Roray Stewart are establishment figures who largely agree on everything despite being ostensibly different political colours and both were expelled from their parties for positions on the European Union. You seem to hold a very prejudiced view of politics if your focus is on someone's background.
>> No. 10121 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:06 pm
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>>10120

Lineker didn't compare anyone to the nazis.
>> No. 10122 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:13 pm
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>>10121
Keep up, pal >>10116
>> No. 10123 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:26 pm
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>>10120
Telling someone they can't present MotD because they don't support the government of the day has nothing to do with "impartiality". If he'd disagreed with Keir Starmer or said he thought the government's batshit migration policies were just swell and exactly what we needed, there is absolutely no way on Earth Lineker would have been asked to step back from presenting MotD.

>You seem to hold a very prejudiced view of politics if your focus is on someone's background.
Yeah, pay no attention to the fact that the country's media and political jefes are overwhelming privately educated, Oxbridge grads, I'm sure it's fine and has no further ramifications than the kinds of accents you hear on the radio.
>> No. 10124 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:40 pm
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>>10123
If he'd compared Kier Starmer's policy stance on immigration to that of Nazi Germany, which as we all know had a major Jewish immigration crisis in the 1930s, then I actually imagine he would.

>Yeah, pay no attention to the fact that the country's media and political jefes are overwhelming privately educated, Oxbridge grads, I'm sure it's fine and has no further ramifications than the kinds of accents you hear on the radio.

...You literally stated yourself that he's despised by the Tory right. Almost like someone's accent shouldn't be used to judge them.
>> No. 10125 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:47 pm
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>>10123
Remember the backlash when he said Labour should get rid of Corbyn? Me neither.
>> No. 10126 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:49 pm
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>>10124

It's not judging someone's accent, it's judging their materially privileged circumstances, class background, and the implications thereof. Stop trying to deflect.

Nepotism is what we're talking about. The fact everyone comes from the same Tory supporting club. Very impartial.
>> No. 10127 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 2:49 pm
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>>10122

He specifically criticised language that is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 1930s. That is a narrow and factually accurate statement that does not in any way equate to comparing any policy or any person to the Nazis. Language matters, the meaning of words matters, they aren't just noises we use to honk out our tribal allegiances.

Criticise what people say by all means, but don't criticise what you think that they said. The feigned outrage over "comparisons to the Nazis" is just a smokescreen to avoid addressing what Lineker actually said, because Braverman has no rebuttal to that - she is using language that is similar to Germany in the 1930s. You can't use words like "invasion" or "swarm" to describe human beings and then get outraged when someone accuses you of using dehumanising language. You can't accuse human rights lawyers of thwarting "the will of the people" and get outraged when people accuse you of authoritarian rhetoric.
>> No. 10128 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 3:40 pm
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I mean this is just a completely disingenuous argument and I don't know why so many smug gits see fit to espouse it.

Let me put it this way - if I tweeted thay you were using language not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 1930s, and I replied 'I can't believe you are comparing my language to that of the Nazis', and you sued me for libel, would you succeed?
>> No. 10129 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 3:42 pm
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Ok I fucked that up and the delete button is still broken. I of course meant if you compared my language to Germany in the 30s, and I replied and you sued.
>> No. 10130 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 3:50 pm
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>>10129

There is a tremendous difference between comparing someone's language to that of the Nazis, versus comparing their character, policies or beliefs.

Many news outlets and commentators failed to make that distinction. Lineker did not say that Braverman was like a Nazi, he did not say that her policies were like the Nazis, he said that her language is not dissimilar to that used by Germany in the 1930s. The latter statement is demonstrably not defamatory; the former statements may well be.
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11th March 2023
Saturday 6:47 pm
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Already, people are claiming he mentioned the Holocaust, which didn't start until 1941. I am frankly impressed at how a former footballer and current Saturday-night TV presenter has managed to cause so much colossal upset while simultaneously being unequivocally technically correct in his wording.

I have to say, though, that any sort of "this is how the Nazis got started" argument is never worth listening to. The Nazis got started pretty normally. They started out doing a lot of normal things. What matters is how they ended up; that's the evil shit. It's also worth pointing out that if you can't make offensive comparisons, then surely someone should step in on Question Time or the news when a Conservative MP says Labour are all Maoists or Stalinists.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward
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But they don't. That's weird.
>> No. 10132 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 7:49 pm
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The government getting Gary Lineker fired for saying that a minister’s language is reminiscent of 1930’s Germany is reminiscent of 1930’s Germany.
>> No. 10133 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 8:33 pm
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There's a sort of trite enjoyment in seeing someone who was critical of Corbyn get the Corbyn treatment.
>> No. 10134 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 8:34 pm
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>>10132
He's not been fired. It's the BBC tying themselves in knots over impartiality, like when they used to bring on climate change sceptics because they thought they meant they were being balanced. Speaking of which:

>BBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of ‘rightwing backlash’

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears
>> No. 10135 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 8:40 pm
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>>10133
>get the Corbyn treatment.

Not really. A few shows have had to be cancelled this weekend because the rest of the BBC Sport team downed tools in solidarity or because they didn't want to be seen as the scab. BT and Sky are openly courting him so either the BBC are going to have to make a massive climb down or he will fuck off to another broadcaster for shitloads money.

Corbyn never had any leverage. His legacy is enabling Brexit and Johnson's majority.
>> No. 10136 Anonymous
11th March 2023
Saturday 8:48 pm
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>>10134
>BBC will not broadcast Attenborough episode over fear of ‘rightwing backlash’

This is total nonsense. The BBC and WWF have confirmed below along with the BBC provided an article from 2022 that makes clear it was always a 5 part series with an online documentary on preservation efforts.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bbcpress/status/1634245237378785280

Please stop treating the Guardian as a reliable news source.
>> No. 10137 Anonymous
12th March 2023
Sunday 10:22 pm
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The BBC has approached the BBC for comment, but a BBC spokesperson told us that no-one from the BBC is available to speak to the BBC on the BBC's behalf.
>> No. 10138 Anonymous
4th April 2023
Tuesday 2:13 am
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>England's women's football team have unveiled a new kit, with blue shorts instead of white, a change encouraged by player's longstanding concerns about wearing white while on their periods.


Good on all them people who menstruate.
>> No. 10139 Anonymous
4th April 2023
Tuesday 2:16 am
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>>10138
In the future, fetishists will track down old footage of women playing in white shorts and be extremely disappointed that nobody ever, even once, bled through her uniform.
>> No. 10140 Anonymous
4th April 2023
Tuesday 4:10 am
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>>10139

>uniform

Yank detected.
>> No. 10141 Anonymous
5th April 2023
Wednesday 2:19 pm
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>>10139

You wonder why girls were allowed to sit out PE class during their periods in school. At my school anyway, where we had mixed-gender PE, you would kind of get the feeling that some of them had their periods more often than is biologically probable. And yet, there are women who are apparently capable of playing World Cup football on the rag.
>> No. 10142 Anonymous
5th April 2023
Wednesday 2:46 pm
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>>10141
Yeah, they didn't want to do PE, mate.
>> No. 10143 Anonymous
5th April 2023
Wednesday 2:53 pm
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>>10142

Well done, you. That's what I was implying all along.
>> No. 10144 Anonymous
5th April 2023
Wednesday 7:18 pm
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>>10141
The only time we mixed genders in PE was the yearly pre-Christmas country dancing session. Not a surprise given I'm posting on this website, but nobody wanted to pair up with me so I'd have to dance with a teacher. If this were America I'd end up a school shooter.
>> No. 10145 Anonymous
5th April 2023
Wednesday 11:24 pm
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>>10144

One of our PE teachers was secretly dating a pupil. But nobody seemed to care back then, it was kind of an open secret, but the school never bothered to investigate.

The teacher was arguably a quite handsome athletic lad of about 24 to 25, and half the school's girls were drooling over him. The lass he was having an affair with was 16 when they started dating, and it wasn't exactly like he shamelessly took her innocence. At her tender age, she was already a strumpet giving some much older girls a run for their money.

They made their relationship public soon after she left school two years later. You'd probably get sacked or much worse for that kind of thing today, but hey, it was the hedonistic 90s. Everybody was fucking everybody on a bad day.
>> No. 10148 Anonymous
3rd May 2023
Wednesday 6:46 pm
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>Ex-UK athletics chief banned for saying black people are good sprinters 'because they have to get away from burglaries'

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/julian-starkey-banned-uk-athletics-black-people-sprinting-burglaries/
>> No. 10149 Anonymous
3rd May 2023
Wednesday 7:28 pm
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>>10148

Whatever happened to "because they used to have to outrun lions and gazelles".
>> No. 10150 Anonymous
4th May 2023
Thursday 6:28 pm
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>>10148
Nobody's sprinting when there are plenty of decent bikes to nick.

[x] Sah-gay for being too BRILLIANT for my own good.
>> No. 10158 Anonymous
14th July 2023
Friday 7:07 pm
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>>10113
>Charges of attempted rape and assault have been dropped against Manchester United footballer Mason Greenwood

And they've just announced their baby together. That'll improve things.

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