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|>>|| No. 4472
I've just read the USADA's letter to the defendants laying out the reasons for bringing charges, and they state clearly that they have interviewed the director of the lab in Lausanne which analysed his samples from the Tour de Suisse, and he has confirmed that Armstrong's sample was indicative of EPO use. That, allied with Hamilton, Landis and presumably others alleging a cover-up would be enough on its own.
I think the real question is what happens to the UCI now? If there is legitimate reason to believe they have been complicit in a cover-up (or a series of cover-ups, as many believe) how can they keep running the sport? Armstrong is finished now, whatever his weirdly fact-blind defenders think. I suspect we have some bigger fish to fry.
|>>|| No. 4473
Any remaining shred of credibility that the UCI might have had is now gone completely. My own suspicion is that they decided not to pursue the Armstrong case to protect the image of cycling in the US.
The really stark fact is this: Except for Sastre, every TdF winner between 1991 and 2010 is now known to be dirty: Indurain, Riis, Ulrich, Pantani, Armstrong, Contador and Schleck.
Personally, I think it's make-or-break. We seem to have had two clean tour winners. You never know, but this might be the impetus the peloton needs to finally abandon the wall of silence and stop protecting dopers from within. If that doesn't happen, we might be better off just accepting doping - have the doctors check that riders are fit to race, but otherwise ignore what's in their bloodstream. The alternative might be another two decades where races don't really have winners, just some guy on the podium who hasn't been caught yet.
|>>|| No. 4564
Going too fast. Not looking where he was going. Fucking cycls. Wish it was my van he hit. Cunt.
|>>|| No. 4908
Funny how quick everybody is to leap on Cavendish at the slightest sign that he might have made a mistake. And how quick they all are to dismiss everything Sky do.
People really do just fucking hate the Brits, don't they?
|>>|| No. 4911
Cav has been taking the piss for years, getting a faceful sprayed at him was inevitable. He has a long history of argy-bargy at the finish and has caused more crashes after the flamme rouge than anyone else. The peloton respect his incredible sprinting ability, but also think that he's too competitive for his own good and a bit of a menace. The ASO and other race organisers have been very lenient against Cav, because he brings so much Anglophone attention to their events. On several occasions he's got away with a small fine when he really should have been DQed.
I don't think that the Veelers crash was necessarily malicious, but it was definitely reckless. The peloton and the fans are sick of seeing Cav take people down and get away with it. It doesn't help Cav's case that in the post-race interview he stole a reporter's dictaphone in a fit of pique.
|>>|| No. 4914
Dubstep and electronic fireworks. Dear oh dear.
|>>|| No. 4916
Good to read this from the Secret Pro, who isn't shy about calling out doping when he sees it (as the rest of the article shows)
>It seems that the media theme of this year’s Tour was all the commotion about the performance calculations and analysis of the top riders and the climbs. The whole thing about performance analysis and Froome not being clean was only a media driven story. I haven’t heard one guy in the peloton say a negative thing about Froome, and I haven’t heard a single person in the peloton suggest Froome isn’t clean. From the interactions I’ve had with him over the years he’s been a complete gentleman and his performances certainly haven’t come from nowhere.
It's Simon Gerrans
|>>|| No. 5452
Thought I'd resurrect this thread now that the classics are creeping up.
Anyone making the pilgrimage to watch the Grand Depart this year? I will because it's happening right outside my house, but I think it'll be a fun weekend. I've ridden most of the Stage 1 roads and I do wonder if they're going to be doing a hefty amount of road resurfacing, because at the moment there's stretches that shake your bones worse than pave.
And in general how do we feel about ARE LADS this season?
|>>|| No. 5453
I'll try and get up there, but apparently people will be charging hundreds of pounds a night for camping. I might just go old-school and bivi in a ditch.
The track worlds have been a massive disappointment and Brailsford's role has been brought into sharp focus. He's clearly the best man for the job, but it appears that he is spread too thin in trying to run both Sky and Team GB. I think that the national track team will have a new Performance Director by the end of the year, but it will take a remarkable candidate to fill Brailsford's shoes.
Sky are looking in excellent form and should pick up some impressive palmares this year. I'm rather surprised to hear that Wiggo is planning a serious attempt at Paris-Roubaix - conventional wisdom would suggest that he just doesn't have the muscle on him to stand a decent chance. Froome is obviously clear favourite for the TdF given the course, his level of fitness and having Wiggo riding as his lieutenant.
I'm most excited to see what Cancellara has up his sleeve. I've always been admired him as an old-fashioned brawler in the manner of Merckx, so an hour record would just be icing on the cake. Apparently Specialized are throwing money at the attempt. It'd be lovely to see the record taken off that dirty bastard Sosenka.
|>>|| No. 5512
>I'll try and get up there, but apparently people will be charging hundreds of pounds a night for camping. I might just go old-school and bivi in a ditch.
Calderdalelad here. Need any help with somewhere to kip / travel logistics / good boozers cyclistlad?
|>>|| No. 5580
I live about 6 miles North East of Huddersfield, so I'm looking into it. I'm not going considering Holme because the nearest car park - 40 minutes walk away from it http://www.kirklees.gov.uk/events/tourDeFrance/pdf/LeTourMapHolmeMoss.pdf - is on the other side of the A6024 and the roads will have closed by 8am and won't re-open until ~3 hours after the riders have passed. I don't think there's anywhere else I fancy between Ainley Top and Holmfirth, so I think I'll have a drive of the route between Ripponden and Elland and see if anywhere looks alright.
|>>|| No. 5998
Presentation highlights on ITV4 at the moment. This French guy's "he speaks very good English" thing is getting old quickly.
|>>|| No. 6002
It's just that the wheel is still regarded as a pretty nifty invention (or possibly the devil's work) in Yorkshire. Down here, every fucker cycles, it's transport, and about as easy to get aroused about as buses.
Also, those Northern bastards get scenery.
|>>|| No. 6003
"At Appleton’s butchers in the market town of Ripon, the elite athletes will be welcomed with a life-size bicycle made from pies"
I've just got back from Ripon, it all looks enthusiastically unhinged in a very un-Yorkshire way.
I'm marshalling tomorrow, and I'm feeling giddy.
|>>|| No. 6004
Large pies is what has made Britain so successful in cycling. It's definitely not drugs
|>>|| No. 6006
Those in the north only pay lip service to Englishness. Their true allegiance is to whomever dons most equally absurd accent. They'd flee like the Scotch if we gave them the chance.
|>>|| No. 6009
Well today I've almost been ran over by a Credit Lyonaisse van piloted by a very attractive french woman, bumped into Chris Boardman and Ned Boulting, and catered for some tour officials.
fukken buzzin lads
|>>|| No. 6012
I was flying home to Yorkshire to watch, as my family are all cycling nuts, but had to miss my flight due to illness (fuck easyjet no returns policy).
I've got this utterly depressing sinking feeling in my stomach that I'm missing something truly special and maybe once-in-a-lifetime - as the tour goes within 2km of my front door and I religiously watch it every year.
I was on Alpe D'huez in 2013 and it was one of the most exciting sporting experiences of my life. I imagine seeing the peloton flying down the Aire Valley would be a bit more special for me.
Let us know how it goes lads - I'll be watching the TV, but hearing some personal accounts would add some nice flavour to it.
|>>|| No. 6013
If you're well enough to post on here, you were well enough to get on that plane. Kids today mumble mumble.
|>>|| No. 6014
Wandered down to watch them go past this morning. They closed a lot of the roads in the village, and the bypass which is normally full of cars was closed. When the bikes went past, it took ages to walk back home as there were hundreds if not thousands of people walking along into the village. It was like the end of the world, where only the bourgeoisie survived.
|>>|| No. 6015
I t went past the front of my shop, I don't see what all the fuss was about. Folk stood around for hours to see 10 seconds of blokes in lycra flashing past, and that was it.
We sent a guy out front to take some photos with his big fancy camera, and he bloody missed it because of the load time on his SD card. It was over that quickly.
At least I get to say "I was there" I guess, but honestly it's not as though you missed much.
|>>|| No. 6016
Apparently there was over a million spectators in Leeds. Evidently they watched it through their cameras/phones. I might pop to Ripponden or Elland as they're not too far away and I might as well if it's pretty much on my doorstep.
|>>|| No. 6025
Poor Cav. Poor, poor Cav. Of all the places to fall. The only upside is that if he's somehow able to get on a bike tomorrow he won't have lost any time.
|>>|| No. 6028
It looked pretty nasty. It was definitely his fault too, which I'm sure makes it all the worse for him. It looked like he went off his line by about half a metre more than he should have and that was that. He probably thought he had more space. That'd be a really, really shitty way to knock yourself out of the GC.
On a lighter note Brian Cookson ate at my restaurant today.
|>>|| No. 6029
I absolutely love the sport, but I've never really seen the appeal of being roadside for it. Though the atmosphere in Leeds today was fantastic, I'd always prefer to watch the full race play out on TV. People will often compare riding the peloton to playing chess, and in that regard I'd rather watch a full game than the move of a single piece.
Having said all that, if you told me this was the top of Ventoux I might believe you. https://twitter.com/letour/status/485418609519632384/photo/1
|>>|| No. 6030
He was quite clear from the outset that it was his fault, and this morning it's been confirmed that he's definitely out.
|>>|| No. 6032
>>6016 here again.
Got to Elland for just after 9, as I was worried it would have been busy but I could have got there at 11 and still found a decent spot (the riders didn't come past until half 2ish). Cracking weather, a fair bit going on in the local area and sat between nice people meant the atmosphere was lovely. The police were clearly loving it, apart from the gendarmerie who were trying to look as unconcerned as possible, and the caravan was the right level of bonkers (apart from trying to hawk gift sets for £20 a pop). The worst thing about the day was the actual race. That was over in no time and quite an anticlimax.
|>>|| No. 6033
Green Hammerton near York. Amazing scenes - about 15,000 people on an innocuous crossroads on the A59. Me and my 6yo cycled from a nearby village at 9am and got to the side of the road about 9:45 - just in time to see the caravan coming past. Then a 90 minute wait with nothing much going on. About 10 minutes before they came past you could see the helicopters and loads of police bikes came through (French and British).
You could then see the helicopter right over the road and hear the crowds further over start to cheer. The atmosphere was awesome when they went through - properly like a football crowd. Then it was time to leave.
I think we enjoyed it. It was a good morning out and I doubt we'll ever see the like again. the boy got one of those little cycling caps and I got a box of limited edition "Yorkshire THE" as souvenirs.
On the way home some cunt in a Range Rover trying to barge through the crowd of cyclists and pedestrians ran over my £400 bike (which I was pushing at the time not riding), bent both wheels and the front fork. Then said it was my fault. Which put somewhat of a dampener on proceedings.
But yeah. I enjoyed it and so did the little one. Pic related.
|>>|| No. 6034
I popped in to see it in Cambridge, but it was so crowded all I saw were a few helmets hammering past, then some upside down bikes flying past, which I choose to assume were on top of support cars. Fair enough, I half-arsed it and turned up at the last minute. (It's only a 3 minute walk from work, otherwise I probably wouldn't have bothered)
However - there were some big screens parked, helpfully saying 'viewing point ahead is full'. Proper TdF screens, not just some council thing. And they kept saying this message, rather than showing some cycling, even as they came past. Seems somewhat fuckwitted to me - they had a satellite dish on the side, that looked like a standard residential $ky dish, and it was pointing the right direction into clear sky. Seems like you could make the back of the crowd a lot happier very easily. Not that there was any real griumbling, it was all very good natured - a lot of offices had evidently emptied out for a lunchtime gawp.
|>>|| No. 6035
Fucking tour de france meant I had to get up at five half four this morning because of all the closed roads. Fucking a505.
|>>|| No. 6038
I'm still optimistic. We've got a couple of decent riders, though that Kennaugh & Cavendish team would've been real fuckin nice.
|>>|| No. 8801
Oh, yeah, I can't think of a single way in which a woman could get her fanny smashed in a hockey match, not a one.
|>>|| No. 8802
Hockey lasses don't spend hours bashing their sticks against their tuppence.
|>>|| No. 8803
I'm good friends with a yank cyclist woman who recently had fanny surgery to reduce the size of her flaps. They were causing serious problems for her racing and training on the bike, it sounded awful.
I had always thought that was exactly why women's saddles often have a huge cutaway in them, but apparently that only helps so much. I can't really imagine the saddle that solves this issue, though, I don't think it can really exist, due to the way pro riders are positioned on their bikes.
|>>|| No. 8804
It depends on the size of your flaps. Most women get on just fine with an ISM Adamo or a Bontrager Hilo, even in a hyper-aggressive TT position. Most male cyclists use a saddle with a fairly substantial cutaway or dip these days, because it takes the pressure off your taint and eliminates the risk of numb cock.
If you've got a minge like a dropped kebab, all bets are off. There's only so much you can do to avoid friction if the inside of your bibshorts look like a butcher's bin.
|>>|| No. 8805
>If you've got a minge like a dropped kebab, all bets are off.
That was her issue, she was quite candid about her meaty flaps.
My missus is a cyclist too and her much neater fadge has no issue at all, she doesn't even have a cutout, it's just a solid Fizik jobbie.
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