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>> No. 83551 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:16 pm
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>Sir Edward Heath 'would have been questioned' over abuse claims
>Sir Edward Heath would have been questioned over sex abuse claims if he was alive when they came to light, police have said. Wiltshire Police launched Operation Conifer in 2015 when the former PM was accused of historical child sex abuse.

>The Conservative politician would have been interviewed under caution over seven claims, including the alleged rape of an 11-year-old, they said. No inference of guilt should be drawn from this, police stressed. The allegations include one of rape of a male under 16, three of indecent assault on a male under 16, four of indecent assault on a male under 14, and two of indecent assault on a male over 16.


How in Gods name is this still going on? Operation Conifer has so far burnt through £1.5 million without a shred of evidence and the press are still going along with it instead of calling for Mike Veale to be sacked and possibly tarred and feathered.

I seem to remember a mythical time when if someone talked about satanic rituals they would be laughed at.
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>> No. 83764 Anonymous
10th December 2017
Sunday 7:30 pm
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How could anyone possibly suspect this angelic figure of doing such a thing?
>> No. 83765 Anonymous
10th December 2017
Sunday 8:19 pm
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Jesus christ is that a vogon?
>> No. 83766 Anonymous
10th December 2017
Sunday 8:34 pm
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It would appear to be a bump to a two-month old thread. Which, I suppose, is on par with the poetry.

>> No. 83755 Anonymous
25th November 2017
Saturday 12:39 pm
83755 Consider the Following...
So are we moving to a post-IRA splinter group situation (best analogy I can think of) with Isis in the middle east? They've been functionally decimated, but 30 or so Isis remnants were responsible for the Egypt terror attack which means they are still organised albeit on a smaller scale.
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>> No. 83756 Anonymous
25th November 2017
Saturday 3:05 pm
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I think it is quite a different scenario the IRA ended because it felt it had achieved its agenda, ISIS has just been supressed. They are quite possibly in the position where they are strongest now, fighting a guerrilla campaign. As long as the funds don't dry up they are really as much of a threat as they ever were.

>> No. 83754 Anonymous
22nd November 2017
Wednesday 5:57 pm
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Philip Hammond effectively ended austerity today with a £25billion Budget splurge that abolished stamp duty for most first time buyers and pumped £3billion into preparing for Brexit.

The Chancellor ditched his 'Spreadsheet Phil' reputation for tight money management as he fought to save his job - turning on the spending taps to meet a bewildering array of challenges.

Despite the OBR fiscal watchdog slashing growth forecasts, Mr Hammond ploughed £2.8billion more into the NHS, £1.5billion into heading off anger about the new Universal Credit rollout, and paved the way for significant public sector pay rises.


You heard the news, lads? Freewheelin' Phil has saved the day! Austerity is over!

>> No. 83558 Anonymous
22nd October 2017
Sunday 4:15 am
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He jokingly called a man "bitch".

He jokingly invited a man to play-act a blowie, and the "bitch" willingly complied.

That was an act that seriously undermines Parliament, but apparently fucking with the constitution to govern like a quasi-dictatorship is just fine.
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>> No. 83606 Anonymous
29th October 2017
Sunday 5:51 pm
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Play the ball, not the man.

>Obscure internet posts seems like something O’Mara wouldn't be consciously aware of

He was making the posts around the time he became a Labour councillor, so he can't really use the excuse it was before he joined politics.
>> No. 83607 Anonymous
29th October 2017
Sunday 6:16 pm
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You used to use your real name?

I guess I have to be thankful for my severe paranoia and schizophrenia. The voices are sometimes right.
>> No. 83608 Anonymous
29th October 2017
Sunday 7:17 pm
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I'd say he can. In the early 00s it's not something that would pop into anyone's head given anonymity was still generally assumed and I'm still not even sure if terms like 'Marmite Motorway' count as homophobia given our cultures love of sex euphemisms.

Anyway, this is the point I was getting at, he signed a contract but 'past actions that could bring disrepute' is a rather nebulous and subjective clause that is largely decided upon retroactively. For example, if the Mrs occasionally pisses on me or I put her over my knee and spank her it can all seem like none of party business but it very much can be if we get labeled the Golden Showers or the police try and do me for BDSM -and that is stuff you would ordinarily flash across your mind. If this came up in a court of law it would be pretty easy to pick it apart on the red hand rule alone and if I were a party leader I would also be rather cautious with the whip anyway considering everyone has some skeletons in their closets.

I had my MSN connected to my profile and later on added few of the other users on facebook. It probably wouldn't be too hard for the gutterpress to track me down even if I deleted all the posts or for old friends to blackmail me.

Fuck, and what about the chatlogs someone could well have on an old computer!
>> No. 83752 Anonymous
17th November 2017
Friday 11:28 am
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"Fuck, and what about the chatlogs someone could well have on an old computer!"

I'm sure thats an issue for many early 2000's teenlads.
>> No. 83753 Anonymous
18th November 2017
Saturday 10:29 am
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They generally won't let people into parliament unless they've got some dirt on them. If you can't blackmail them by threat of character assassination then there's always a danger that someone principled might actually try to change things.

>> No. 83552 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 1:11 am
83552 Internet Police
Amber Rudd: viewers of online daft militant wog material face 15 years in jail.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/oct/03/amber-rudd-viewers-of-online-daft militant wog-material-face-15-years-in-jail

How long before they expand their powers to include any material they find distasteful?
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>> No. 83747 Anonymous
15th November 2017
Wednesday 6:30 pm
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My Dad, who is a fucking idiot, seem to think that "they're not even allowed to call them scaffolding poles anymore in case you offend the Polish, it's political correctness gone mead!" he dosne't want to provide me with a source for this information and says "just look it up" i can't find a source. He is an idiot as i said.
>> No. 83748 Anonymous
15th November 2017
Wednesday 6:34 pm
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I think this post was sponsored by > mead!
>> No. 83749 Anonymous
15th November 2017
Wednesday 7:09 pm
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You can't find a source, eh? I found one straight away at 23 minutes into this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0
>> No. 83750 Anonymous
15th November 2017
Wednesday 7:11 pm
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Not sure if he's got the money to sponsor things, since they wrote his character out of Casualty.
>> No. 83751 Anonymous
16th November 2017
Thursday 12:22 am
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I suspected as much

>> No. 83589 Anonymous
27th October 2017
Friday 6:10 pm
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Yeah, whoever it was in /iq/ that said this deserves to be a real thread is quite right. This is going to blow up badly for some people and I think we should share the details consider it carefully. I know that the odd politico type comes here, spill the fucking beans!
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>> No. 83738 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 1:53 am
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Phwoar she could be first past my post IYKWIM
>> No. 83739 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 8:25 pm
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I'd have sex with her IYKWIM.
>> No. 83742 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 9:44 pm
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Lad. Really.
>> No. 83743 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 9:54 pm
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I'm not sure what you mean.
>> No. 83744 Anonymous
10th November 2017
Friday 9:58 pm
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This is exactly what I expected in the thread about sexual harassment. Keep up the good work, lads.

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>> No. 83481 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 5:53 am
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This man is going to be the next Michigan state senator and it's going to be fucking awesome.
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>> No. 83482 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 10:00 am
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>the next Michigan state senator
You mean the next senator from Michigan. A "state senator" is roughly on par with a county councillor.
>> No. 83483 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 2:50 am
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He's a fucking cock. They deserve all they get.

>> No. 83192 Anonymous
19th July 2017
Wednesday 6:30 pm
83192 Pensions thought
So the pension age has been stuck up again, this is due to the argument that more old people, more pension, more money etc etc etc.

However, if people work longer and we have more old people in employment, then aren't they going to block up the job market resulting in less jobs for young people? If there's less jobs for young people they will end up being dependent on the state and claim benefits.

Does this not mean that regardless of what is done it's going to hit one budget or the other, essentially? Either it's going to cost more long term in pension or more long term in benefits and essentially cancel out any gains made.

I'm only putting this out there as a thought I've had for a while and never really heard anyone else putting the point across and I was wondering, is that because I'm making a fucking stupid point?
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>> No. 83380 Anonymous
26th August 2017
Saturday 1:07 pm
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New industries create different kinds of jobs.
>> No. 83381 Anonymous
26th August 2017
Saturday 1:18 pm
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Evolution isn't a force, you dipshit. Plus, force is the conversion of energy from one firm to another, so the question doesn't even make sense.

Just fuck off and educate yourself a bit, would you? If you're going to try to convince people you should at least have some idea what they believe.
>> No. 83422 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 7:42 pm
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>Evolution isn't a force

What is it then? Pretty sure evolution is the conversion of energy of one form to another. Educate me if not.
>> No. 83424 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 9:15 pm
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Evolution is the adaptation of an organism over time to its habitat, to facilitate a greater chance of successful reproduction.
>> No. 83425 Anonymous
1st September 2017
Friday 9:56 pm
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Technically, evolution is the process of change in inherited traits over successive generations. What you're describing is natural selection.

Pedant's sage.

>> No. 83303 Anonymous
24th August 2017
Thursday 6:46 pm
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I have met a couple of Tories who were genuinely really anxious for me to see that they weren’t horrible people and really believed putting everything into private enterprise will achieve better results.

Whatever type they are, I have absolutely no intention of being friends with any of them. I have friends I choose to spend time with. I go to parliament to be a mouthpiece for my constituents and class – I’m not interested in chatting on.

I feel disgusted at the way they’re running this country, it’s visceral – I’m not interested in being cosy. I hate those Tory questions that start with ‘Does the PM agree with me..?’ – when one Tory MP stood up and asked one I told him I think those questions are disgraceful. His response was ‘you mustn’t be a very good MP‘!

The idea that they’re not the enemy is simply delusional when you see the effect they have on people – a nation where lots of people live in a constant state of fear whether they even have enough to eat.


I know politics is getting increasingly childish and divisive, but when we have an actual MP branding Tories as the enemy and saying she could never be friends with one I think we've reached a new low. Then again, I suppose all that virtue isn't going to signal itself.
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>> No. 83362 Anonymous
25th August 2017
Friday 6:46 pm
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Whatever way you look it it, packs of supermarket bacon have absolutely nothing to do with a bunch of rich toffs getting drunk on champagne, letting an army of dogs loose, and galloping after them on horses trampling everything in their way.
Fox hunting is just as big a steaming pile of crap whether a fox gets killed or not.

Calling fox hunting inefficient at killing foxes is like calling boxing an inefficient cure for toothache.
The cost of keeping the horses and looking after the dogs, feeding them, stabling and kennelling them, paying the people to look after them etc. is so huge that it would be far more efficient for farmers to leave a few chickens out every night and hope that a fox gets hit by a car on the way there.
>> No. 83366 Anonymous
25th August 2017
Friday 8:16 pm
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I think it's safe to say that the "left" has well and truly disappeared up its own arse now.

>> No. 83369 Anonymous
25th August 2017
Friday 9:22 pm
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Oooh, degenerate art am I right, lad? Oooooh.
>> No. 83371 Anonymous
25th August 2017
Friday 9:47 pm
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Did you even read the article otherlad posted?

Brian Logan is offended by comedians taking the piss out of their audience and (heaven forbid) going a little hyperbolic with it. He is reporting on a comedy festival and doesn't understand comedy.
>> No. 83373 Anonymous
25th August 2017
Friday 10:08 pm
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>Brian Logan
Don't you mean 'the left'?

>> No. 82573 Anonymous
8th June 2017
Thursday 6:27 am
82573 2017 General Election polling day/results thread
Morning, lads.

As per .gs tradition, it's time for the separate polling day/results thread.

Results are expected slightly earlier than previous years as there's no local elections at the same time.
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>> No. 83169 Anonymous
15th July 2017
Saturday 9:27 pm
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>Does this mean immigration is bad, or the people who employ and take advantage of immigrants are bad?
It means >>83088 apparently can't do maths.
>> No. 83173 Anonymous
15th July 2017
Saturday 11:23 pm
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>Actually, yes, you did. The exact word with which you disagreed were "doesn't make you any less of a person". By disagreeing, you are, in fact, saying that it does make you less of a person.

Is there really any point in talking to you when your position is automatically "anyone or anything that disagrees with me is racist" including widely recognised concepts like borders and nationality?

I mean I did just assume we were wasting our time here but here we go and the thread is back up.

>No, that report is not evidence of "significant detrimental impact". It even says so right there in the abstract.

Read the quote then do a Ctrl+f and understand the context. Abstract browsers are on par with people who try and bullshit you on what footnotes say.

>Vesting power in a small group of people is better is it?

I wouldn't call the checks and balances we have in modern society small. Certainly it could be bigger in some areas but if cabinet tried to pass some nonsense today you can imagine the uphill battle they would face against backbenchers, the media, potential protests, facebook memes etc.
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>> No. 83174 Anonymous
15th July 2017
Saturday 11:39 pm
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>Is there really any point in talking to you when your position is automatically "anyone or anything that disagrees with me is racist" including widely recognised concepts like borders and nationality?
Put that straw man away, lad. My position is "anyone or anything that disagrees with me does not agree with me".

>Read the quote then do a Ctrl+f and understand the context
It's your argument. Chapter and verse to support your claim that the report claims "substantial detrimental impact". I suspect you can't provide one because either the report doesn't say what you think it says or you just can't add up.
>> No. 83209 Anonymous
7th August 2017
Monday 8:33 pm
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>I wouldn't call the checks and balances we have in modern society small. Certainly it could be bigger in some areas but if cabinet tried to pass some nonsense today you can imagine the uphill battle they would face against backbenchers, the media, potential protests, facebook memes etc.

They pass nonsense all the time, with the help of the media of course. Protests and facebook memes are laughable and change nothing.

>The rest just seems like some mental rant about people being thick or whatever which while I agree with I'm not entirely sure if it is relevant or that you understand what checks and balances mean.

It's not just that people have been conditioned to be thick, people have also been conditioned (by the media they consume) to think they know what's going on and what the correct decision is to be made on things like "Brexit".

>You see you start off well enough that yes, we must judge people for who they are not who they were born but then you start talking about how we should publish MPs medical records because they might be hiding cancer...

I'm struggling to see what the issue is with knowing an MP's medical record? I don't give a shit if they had gonorrhoea 20 years ago, but there are certain things which are important to know if they want to be in charge of a country.
>> No. 83210 Anonymous
7th August 2017
Monday 8:43 pm
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Well worth the bump, mate.

>> No. 83112 Anonymous
11th July 2017
Tuesday 9:15 pm
83112 The great British Brexit robbery: how our democracy was hijacked
Not sure if I should have put this in /boo/ but:

>A shadowy global operation involving big data, billionaire friends of Trump and the disparate forces of the Leave campaign influenced the result of the EU referendum

>This is Britain in 2017. A Britain that increasingly looks like a “managed” democracy. Paid for by a US billionaire. Using military-style technology. Delivered by Facebook. And enabled by us. If we let this referendum result stand, we are giving it our implicit consent. This isn’t about Remain or Leave. It goes far beyond party politics. It’s about the first step into a brave, new, increasingly undemocratic world.

So it seems a British defense contractor helped the Leave campaign. Cambridge Analytica exploited the system for Vote Leave to get away with funding that would have normally broken electoral rules. All bankrolled by a billionaire hedge fund manager. Welcome to plutocracy.

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>> No. 83185 Anonymous
16th July 2017
Sunday 6:55 pm
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Don't be fucking ridiculous. Why are you even on about deporting Asians? Nobody except you is claiming the Asians who diddled in the likes of Rotherham are representative of all Joe's.

The simple fact is that the climate the lefties created enabled the likes of Rotherham to happen for so long. It's part of the reason why lefties are their own worst enemies and their actions were a major contributor to Brexit happening.
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16th July 2017
Sunday 7:05 pm
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>Nobody except you is claiming the Asians who diddled in the likes of Rotherham are representative of all Joe's.
No, I'm not the one claiming that. You're the one claiming that.
>> No. 83189 Anonymous
19th July 2017
Wednesday 12:22 am
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>But they don't have any more propensity towards diddling kids than the locals

With regards to grooming cases Asian males are disproportionately over represented. And the incest thing is an unpleasant, inarguable fact too.
>> No. 83190 Anonymous
19th July 2017
Wednesday 1:26 am
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That's not necessarily true. The numbers that normally go with this claim come from a report that specifically deals with street grooming.

>The data submitted refers only to the ‘localised grooming’ model of child sexual exploitation and does not include online
grooming, trafficking of children into the UK, peer-on-peer abuse or other forms of sexual exploitation.
>This assessment cannot be seen as fully representative of the nature and scale of child sexual exploitation in the U.K., or, indeed, of the 'localised grooming' model.


>In particular, the report raises concerns over its ethnic representation:
>"Caution should be taken in drawing conclusions about ethnicity due to the relatively small number of areas where agencies have been proactive around this particular type of crime. We do not draw national conclusions about ethnicity from the data available at this time because it is too inconsistent."

>We therefore need to be cautious about Keith Vaz's claim, as the source he uses explicitly warns against drawing any nationwide conclusions on the basis of its research.
>While both the HM Prison Service and CEOP datasets have problems associated with them, there is nevertheless some evidence to suggest that sex offenders are 'overwhelmingly white' in terms of the raw numbers.

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>> No. 83191 Anonymous
19th July 2017
Wednesday 3:27 am
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Yeah yeah, spout facts, nerd.

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>> No. 82497 Anonymous
16th May 2017
Tuesday 2:19 pm
82497 Trump impeachement... pending
What exactly is it that the man needs to do to get impeached? There seems to be a scandal that would damn any other leader every week.

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>> No. 82544 Anonymous
24th May 2017
Wednesday 9:14 pm
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You haven't quite grasped how this works. Let me translate some of those terms for you:

>impeachable offence
Anything that will pass the House by simple majority.

>can stand up in court
Senators can bring themselves to vote for it.

While the Supreme Court haven't entirely ruled it out, they have declined to hear every appeal against impeachment that has been put to them, and if one takes the Constitution at its face then there is no right of appeal against conviction. However, to convict requires a two-thirds majority in the Senate and, unlike the filibuster, it's not a procedural rule but mandated by the Constitution.
>> No. 83092 Anonymous
8th July 2017
Saturday 3:14 am
83092 Trump accepts Putin's claims that Russia did not meddle in US election
Well I'm glad they settled that for us.

>> No. 83093 Anonymous
8th July 2017
Saturday 12:42 pm
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Yeah, but even after 6 months of harping on about Trump/Russia they'll carry on doing it and people will carry on believing it's true.
>> No. 83095 Anonymous
8th July 2017
Saturday 2:52 pm
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This. It's just like Jimmy Savile. Years after his death people keep harping on about him supposedly being a kiddy fiddler even though he said he couldn't have done it because he didn't like kids.
>> No. 83096 Anonymous
9th July 2017
Sunday 11:26 am
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To clarify, by people, you mean multiple intelligence services right?

>> No. 83060 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 9:52 pm
83060 sack Parliament IT department
This is fucking balls. First, all MPs should have two factor authentication enabled on their accounts. Second, the local IT team should have password policies enabled. Third, they should be brute force testing their own accounts regularly. What the actual fuck are they up to?

Also, this is now going to be hilarious. Because 90 parliamentary email accounts just got into the public domain.
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>> No. 83062 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 10:13 pm
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I can't wait for Theresa's reaction to this.
>> No. 83063 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 10:25 pm
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>the local IT team should have password policies enabled.
Password policies are really fucking annoying, and the clientele includes MPs who are Too Bloody Important to have to put up with them. Also, a lot of the time they're counterproductive anyway, since they encourage sequences. If you put in measures to prevent sequences, you'll just end up either flooding your helpdesk with "I can't remember the 128-character line-noise password you made me set last week" or leaving yourself open to the Post-It Note Attack.
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25th June 2017
Sunday 10:47 pm
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The real answer is surely 2fa. The City have pretty much abandoned passwords - they're using security tokens and biometrics.
>> No. 83066 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 11:06 pm
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I was going to ask how Jacob Rees-Mogg would cope, but then again he probably employs someone to sit in front of the magic lantern and type on the plastic typewriter for him.
>> No. 83075 Anonymous
27th June 2017
Tuesday 8:49 pm
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'Laugh-out-loud' as they say in the Rees-Mogg household.

>> No. 83033 Anonymous
24th June 2017
Saturday 10:38 pm
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>The Government is hiding a devastating report that shows rehabilitation courses taken by thousands of jailed rapists and paedophiles make them more dangerous once they are released.

>According to the study, prisoners who take the courses are at least 25 per cent more likely to be convicted of further sex crimes than those who do not, suggesting that the sessions may have created hundreds of extra victims.

>The controversial Sex Offender Treatment Programme (SOTP), a six-month psychological group-therapy course, is believed to have cost taxpayers well over £100 million since it was set up in 1991.

>Before the report was compiled, about 1,000 prisoners had been taking the 'core' programme at a cost of about £7 million a year, many at eight sex offender treatment 'hubs' – specialist jails where thousands of such criminals are concentrated.

>The worst offenders went on to an 'extended' course, which was also found to make them more dangerous. An investigation by this newspaper has revealed:

>• The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) was initially reluctant to accept the bombshell findings, but after they were independently endorsed, it abruptly axed both programmes – but kept the decision secret;

>• Experts had for years been warning that the programmes were flawed, and there was no good evidence that they cut reoffending;

>• Paedophiles convicted of physically attacking children are especially likely to offend again after taking the SOTP;
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>> No. 83056 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 1:32 pm
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What? No. It doesn't matter if the animal wants to be let out, don't do it.
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25th June 2017
Sunday 2:09 pm
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>However, some experts have disputed such claims for many years. One was William Marshall, whose own, very different sex offender rehabilitation programmes in Canada have been shown to achieve huge cuts in reoffending rates.

>Until 2004, Dr Marshall was employed as an external consultant to SOTPs in Britain. But exasperated by what he saw as the programme's shortcomings and the Government's failure to remedy them, he resigned. 'There were a lot of problems with SOTP and I didn't want to be identified with a programme I didn't agree with,' he said. 'They weren't adapting the course in line with developing knowledge, and many of those delivering the programme were not qualified.'

>The worst problem was that the numbers being enrolled on the courses were 'far too ambitious', leading to a shortage of qualified therapists. In fact, most SOTP facilitators were chaplains, ordinary prison officers and other 'para-professionals'.

>According to Dr Marshall, their lack of training meant that the facilitators were forced to stick rigidly to 'scripts' drawn from a thick SOTP manual. He said: 'Manuals take the therapist out of the loop. For sex offender treatment to succeed, you have to be flexible enough to keep adapting to every individual. A revamp is long overdue.'

>Another prominent sceptic was David Ho, a forensic psychiatrist who has treated some of the country's most disturbed offenders at Broadmoor, and is now research chief at a secure unit in Essex.

>He said: 'I'm not surprised by the new evaluation. Both the academic community and the public have the right to see the full results.' Previous studies claiming SOTPs worked were fundamentally flawed, he said – as he had been arguing for years.

Read the article before you post, team. The problem has been one of ambition without the resources so you've just sat some paedos together to discuss molesting kids for years while the local vicar brings tea and stickies (hmm...)

As much as I would like to say that Liz Truss has been a naughty girl the government suppressing the report seems reasonable in light of our countries history.
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>> No. 83058 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 6:07 pm
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>Read the article before you post, team.
It's the Mail. That's generally a waste of time, for obvious reasons.
>> No. 83059 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 6:47 pm
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Even a werewolf is entitled to a defence.
>> No. 83064 Anonymous
25th June 2017
Sunday 10:38 pm
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Like a silver-proof vest?

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