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>> No. 20099 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 2:18 pm
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Fireman Sam axed by fire chiefs for being 'outdated' and not 'inclusive' enough

Fire chiefs have axed much-loved children’s TV character Fireman Sam for being “outdated” and not “inclusive” enough.

Lincolnshire Fire and Rescue Service dropped the 32-year-old character, who is white and male, from promotional material after residents complained he “doesn’t reflect the fire service today.” Fireman Sam will be replaced by three new characters created in-house: fire extinguisher shaped Freddy, Filbert and Penelope.

Les Britzman, the service's Chief Fire Officer, told Good Morning Britain he was trying to increase female recruitment to the service.


https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/fireman-sam-axed-by-fire-chiefs-for-not-being-inclusive-enough-a4233761.html

I don't give a fuck about 'PC gawn mad' or the hypocrisy of replacing one white male fireman mascot with another. I just want to draw your attention to the fact that the new mascot is PURE FUCKING NIGHTMARE FUEL.
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>> No. 20119 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 10:32 pm
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>>20118
Same tune, different words, different style. Naff, but not in the charming way the original was.
>> No. 20120 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 10:40 pm
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>>20118
>Some bloody drum and dance nonsense I imagine.

I saw a trailer for the new BBC Second World War drama, World on Fire, earlier and they were playing rap music over it. Rap music for a Second World War drama. I couldn't believe it.
>> No. 20121 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 10:59 pm
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>>20120

I've already complained about peaky blinders this week, but in one scene in that someone shouts at a bandmaster to play "ragtime!" and the music in the scene that plays is Arctic Monkeys or something.
>> No. 20122 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:23 pm
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>>20121

Is it prehaps a contextual choice? like the way they say fuck and cunt in deadwood, but never would have at the time, as their actual swear words like 'tarnation' have become completely silly to our ears.
>> No. 20123 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:30 pm
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>>20122
What makes you think they wouldn't have said those words?
>> No. 20124 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:44 pm
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>>20121

>> No. 20125 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:46 pm
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>>20107
>It's not the 1950s, that's not really the main requirement any more.

My concern is entirely a capacity to perform the job without a loss of quality, as far as I'm aware now firefighters have to carry more weight because we care about their safety more, and we don't use things like asbestos gasmasks anymore but oxygen tanks.

>Would you say the same about women paramedics?

>Policemen don't have to be 6 feet tall anymore either, it's a disgrace
Paramedics I can't see any good reason for a gender division.

Also the average person has ballooned in weight since 1950s and I don't see how you can get over needing to carry them that technology doesn't exist in a way that is practical for the kind of obstacles encountered.
As opposed to police, where they don't need to see over people’s heads and pursue them on foot because the local CCTV is tracking people for them.

I'm not talking about excluding women, I'm talking about the reality of why they are less likely to meet the physical requirements, am I going to have to point the obvious of why the Olympic games are divided by gender, or should we take it as read. I actually know a woman fire constable, and she as you would imagine could snap most people like a twig.

>apparently that part of the selection testing is dragging a 55kg casualty, which seems so low as to not be worth including, really

You'll notice the word 'selection' that is obviously the base level they start from when they haven't devoted their life to training to carry people, rip open a car, and holding a high pressure hose in place.
>> No. 20126 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:48 pm
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>>20123

reality.
>> No. 20127 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:57 pm
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>>20122

It was a stylistic choice, but it came off, to me at least, as a bit embarrassing. They use a lot of modern music in the show and it works non-diagetically quite well, but watching a load of fellers swing trumpets around while modern rock music plays is just a bit silly.
>> No. 20129 Anonymous
11th September 2019
Wednesday 11:59 pm
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>>20125

>Paramedics I can't see any good reason for a gender division

Paramedics have to lift people too.
>> No. 20130 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 12:00 am
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>>20126
"Bonanza" wasn't a documentary, m7.
>> No. 20132 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 1:13 pm
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>>20129

Do they? I assumed they needed to just move them into recovery position at most, please correct me if I am mistaken. Which is considerably easy task then moving someone expectantly out of a collapsing building filled will smoke and carrying them down several stories of ladder, which is not an unusual training scenario for a firefighter.
>> No. 20133 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 1:20 pm
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>>20130

Neither was deadwood. I'm the one who can distinguish TV from real life remember, not you.
>> No. 20134 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 1:29 pm
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>>20132

How do you think you get an unconscious patient out of a house, or even off the street?
>> No. 20135 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 2:03 pm
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>>20134
I've seen enough cartoons to know that the answer is to place hundreds of ants under them. They'll carry them out.
>> No. 20136 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 2:08 pm
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postman pat and his nhs operation twat

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 20138 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 2:51 pm
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>>20134

I'd assume when the ambulance arrives they carry them out of the house with equipment. Why would you not leave them there until the ambulance arrives you mental?
>> No. 20139 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 3:09 pm
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>>20138

There's only so much lifting equipment you can carry on an ambulance. Some specialist bariatric ambulances might have a patient winch, but most are lucky to have an airbag lifting system. Many patients need to be urgently removed from very awkward positions, giving the crew no choice but to manhandle the patient.

In the US, nearly a quarter of ambulance staff experience a career-ending back injury; the UK isn't far behind.
>> No. 20140 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 3:22 pm
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>>20138

The paramedic comes in the ambulance, what the fuck are you even talking about?

And the fact you can imagine a world where paramedics can use 'equipment' but firefighters have to carry people everywhere over their shoulders is astonishing.
>> No. 20141 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 3:46 pm
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>>20140
>The paramedic comes in the ambulance, what the fuck are you even talking about?

Paramedics usually don't come in an ambulance they arrive by separate methods to stabilise condition until ambulances arrive.


>And the fact you can imagine a world where paramedics can use 'equipment' but firefighters have to carry people everywhere over their shoulders is astonishing.

Ambulances usually come equipped with folding beds and stretchers. Which is fine if you just need to get people in and out of a normal house. Or off the street.

The diiferance with fire fighters is they are trained to handle debris and obstructions where you couldn't nessicerily negotiate that equipment through.

I suppose you are about to lead up with 'well what about in those situations don't the medical people also so that?' And the answer is no. They get the fire fighters to do it.
>> No. 20142 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 4:18 pm
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>>20141

>Paramedics usually don't come in an ambulance they arrive by separate methods to stabilise condition until ambulances arrive.

What do you call the people in the ambulance then?

>diiferance

I no longer need to talk to you.
>> No. 20143 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 5:07 pm
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>>20142

Usually the ambulance driver or crew this is an article that shows example of the distinction.

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/ambulance-chief-regret-after-belfast-without-paramedic-cover-for-one-weekend-night-38133198.html

Some ambulance crew are paramedics but not all ambulance crew are paramedics and not all paramedics are ambulance crew (but they would drive in that case an ambulance, but not the sort you are thinking of, because their car or motorcycle would technically be an ambulance) make sense? good.
>> No. 20144 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 5:51 pm
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FIREFIGHTERS SPEND ALL DAY LOAFING AROUND AND EATING SAUSAGES
PARAMEDICS SPEND ALL DAY SAVING LIVES
FIREFIGHTERS NEED SPECIALIST EQUIPMENT TO RESCUE A CAT STUCK UP A TREE
PARAMEDICS PERFORM OPEN HEART SURGERY USING ONLY A BIRO
FIREFIGHTERS GET PAID AN AVERAGE OF £240,000 FOR EVERY LIFE THEY SAVE
PARAMEDICS GET PAID AN AVERAGE OF £2.40 FOR EVERY LIFE THEY SAVE
REPOST THIS IF YOU THINK PARAMEDICS DESERVE MORE
I BET 98% OF YOU WON'T
>> No. 20145 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 5:52 pm
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>>20144

Wont let me share hun can u fix it xxx
>> No. 20146 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 6:30 pm
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>>20144
>FIREFIGHTERS GET PAID AN AVERAGE OF £240,000 FOR EVERY LIFE THEY SAVE

That's low, not high. Unless everywhere burns down every week and everyone is constantly being rescued from burning buildings. Or maybe if Sam is (was?) the only firefighter in the country.
>> No. 20147 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 6:48 pm
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>>20146
A fully qualified firefighter earns around £30,000 a year. Saving one life every eight years seems like a pretty shitty return on investment, especially considering how many lives a paramedic would save in those eight years.
>> No. 20148 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 7:49 pm
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>>20147

Firefighters are actually one of the oldest state run professions, In Rome the first firefighters were private organisations and it ended up becoming racketeering pretty quickly it is actually how Crassus, (of the first Triumvirate with Julius Caesar and Pompey the great) made his money and he was super rich.

So it is actually a fantastic return on an investment in that our society isn't run by men who will only put out the fire in your house if you agree to sell it to them at a significantly reduced rate.
>> No. 20149 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 8:27 pm
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>>20148
No, it's just put out by people who've already taken 30-40% of everything you earned.
>> No. 20150 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 8:50 pm
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>>20148
Wouldn't it be a better racket to set people's houses on fire and then demand payment to put it out?
>> No. 20151 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 11:31 pm
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>>20150

Not really. Once they owned the house they rented it back to them. Landlord is the second finest parasitic profession you can perform below only seagull, and it was more socially acceptable than pure arson. Not that they didn't probably perform arson to create that position.
>> No. 20152 Anonymous
12th September 2019
Thursday 11:36 pm
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>>20149

The state providing roads street lights, police, benefits for the less able, pentions, infrastructure projects and a health service is the worst. The free market has always been demestratably better at all those things hasn't it
>> No. 20178 Anonymous
14th September 2019
Saturday 11:35 am
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>Fire chiefs have axed much-loved children’s TV character Fireman Sam for being “outdated” and not “inclusive” enough.


Fuck off.

Just plain fuck off.
>> No. 20179 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 12:39 am
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Isn't it just because facts say men do the dangerous jobs and women don't through choice? Or do we need 50% females on oil rigs.
>> No. 20180 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 12:43 am
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>>20179
Seems a bit authoritarian to send all the hermaphrodites to oil rigs.
>> No. 20181 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 4:19 am
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>>20178
Brilliantly argued, truly we have not borne witness to wit like your own since the days of Rod Liddle.
>> No. 20182 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 10:05 am
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Female Royal Marine and Army recruits are suffering career-threatening injuries from wearing a kit-carrying system designed for men.

The high-tech £79 million Virtus battle equipment system is causing women trying to become Britain's first commandos and infantry soldiers to endure agonising leg and hip problems, according to scientists.

They say the 90-litre capacity rucksack is too big for most female troops while the webbing pouches used to carry ammunition and worn around the waist hurt their hips, which are naturally wider than a man's.

Troops who have suffered lower-limb injuries while wearing Virtus include the first female Royal Marine recruit, Philippa Birch. The super-fit international rower spent months recovering from a stress fracture after collapsing during a march over Dartmoor. At the time she was carrying equipment weighing 70 lb and a rifle.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7464293/Female-Marine-Army-recruits-suffer-injuries-79million-battle-kit-designed-men.html

We should have it so that the only kit female marines have to carry is a hairbrush, lipstick and tampons.
>> No. 20185 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 10:52 am
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>>20182
Was that supposed to be funny? Or are you just outing yourself an chronic masturbator type so no one's under any illusions?
>> No. 20188 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 2:26 pm
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>>20185
Since when did casual sexism and chauvinism mean you get lumped in with those lot?
>> No. 20189 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 3:30 pm
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>>20188

About the time being a modern man started meaning you are a metrosexual cuck.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 20190 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 4:14 pm
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>>20189
Straight of the boat, conversing in buzz words and slogans; I wish you luck in your .gs career.
>> No. 20191 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 4:54 pm
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>>20190
>of the boat

Lad.
>> No. 20192 Anonymous
15th September 2019
Sunday 7:03 pm
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>Britzman
Every single time.
>> No. 20215 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 10:10 pm
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>>20192
So your Jew hating extends so far that you believe Les has spent his career climbing the proverbial ladder of the Fire and Rescue Service in order to bin a fifty year old cartoon character as their mascot? That was the implication, wasn't it?
>> No. 20216 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 10:46 pm
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>>20215

The thing is, when it's Jews, it's not only racist but plausible. They are a deeply self loathing people, and while he almost certainly didn't set his career trajectory with the explicit aim of deposing Are Sam, once he found that power to be in his hands he couldn't resist the temptation. Another figure of the white, European man's culture to subvert, another step closer to vengeance for the grievous wounds the Jewish people have allowed to be inflicted upon themselves by white Europeans over the years.

It's like that film Oldboy, but with entire cultures. They know how to hold a grudge, and they're not going to stop at Fireman Sam.

(A good day to you Sir!)
>> No. 20217 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 10:49 pm
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>>20216
What an load of shit.
>> No. 20218 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 10:55 pm
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>>20216

I've heard some bizarre anti-Semitic conspiracy theories in my time, but the idea that the Jews have been plotting to replace a cartoon Welsh carpet-bagger with a boggle-eyed fire extinguisher takes the cake.
>> No. 20219 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 11:00 pm
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Next time don't wait a whole day for me to bait the motherfucker out.
>> No. 20221 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 11:16 pm
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>>20218

It's almost as if that was the point.

>>20219

Well, sorry, but you got the wrong guy. Don't pat yourself on the back so soon.

I fully expected a ban for a post like that, but steady on modlads. Can't you tell blatant facetiousness any more?
>> No. 20222 Anonymous
16th September 2019
Monday 11:45 pm
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>>20221
1) A "permanent" ban is the easiest thing to click thanks to the mod UI, I asked about changing this a few times over the years but nothing came of it.
2) You got around it in minutes so who cares?
>> No. 20225 Anonymous
17th September 2019
Tuesday 12:54 am
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>>20222

>A "permanent" ban is the easiest thing to click thanks to the mod UI

That feels intentional.

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