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>> No. 27266 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 5:21 pm
27266 Corona thread #3
Right, now that the last corona thread is over 1,700 posts long, maybe it's time for a new one.

How long do you think it will be until we're fully back to normal?
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>> No. 30704 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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It would make sense in theory to test people for covid antibodies who may unknowingly already have had it, if just to have more doses available for those who really need them, but in practice that doesn't solve your problem, because it isn't even known yet how long a natural immunisation through contact with the virus itself will last. Initial studies point to a pretty certain immunity for about five months, but what will happen after that is impossible to know at this point as we're barely a year into the whole thing. It could be that the average healthy person will have immunity for years, but it's also not yet understood why a couple of people have verifiably become ill with covid twice.
>> No. 30705 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:53 pm
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The Ab tests are woefully inaccurate though. And you can lose expression of circulating antibodies, so test negative, but still be immune due to memory T cells and other Immunological witchery I don't really fully understand.
>> No. 30706 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 10:32 pm
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>The Ab tests are woefully inaccurate though

Which is why fewer and fewer countries accept antibody tests from travellers wanting to enter that country. A lot of them now insist on negative PCR tests that aren't older than 72 hours. I've read that about Spain, and I think it now also goes for Germany. Which is probably a logistical nightmare of its own if you want your lab results back in time to catch your flight.
>> No. 30707 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:34 am
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>but it's also not yet understood why a couple of people have verifiably become ill with covid twice.

I'd add 'completely' to that. Your body builds immunity upon exposure to this or that (or the other) but that doesn't mean that after it your immune and most of the time that is fine - you catch the same cold again. The article I linked further up had 95% of a sample with some level immunity (down to the immune response in question), that's not invincibility but if they got sick again they wouldn't be as sick with all things being equal.

That is why at the moment people aren't worrying about the children, its assumed they'll exercise their bouncebackability and that their immune system will be trained over a lifetime of exposure just as we get colds. Anyone who says otherwise is being a bit of a rice-merchant.
>> No. 30708 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:54 am
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>Which is probably a logistical nightmare of its own if you want your lab results back in time to catch your flight.

I bet it would be hilarious if someone did turn out to have covid and you end up trapped in a plane on some foreign runway. In hour 16 your trying to listen to Pets 2 for the third time through broken headphones as everyone else sings songs over it to keep their spirits up, broken up by screaming toddlers and the smell of dirty nappies.

Like married life only your married to an obnoxiously loud events manager on one side and an oddly smelling guy who works in a slaughterhouse on the other who keep glancing at your cock.

>> No. 29826 Anonymous
6th January 2021
Wednesday 11:25 pm
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So what's all this about Americans rioting then? How come there's no American SWP representatives hanging around?
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>> No. 30673 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 3:53 pm
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>Election technology company Dominion sues Giuliani for $1.3 billion over 'Big Lie' about election fraud

I was kind of wondering the other day how Dominion would take all the allegations by the Trump team. Whatever you may think of voting machines, Trump was denigrating a commercial company's reputation without any substantial proof at all.
>> No. 30674 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 4:24 pm
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Giuliani has nowhere near a billion dollars.
>> No. 30675 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 5:19 pm
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He could turn the lights out and pretend not to be in when the bailiffs come a-knocking like everybody else in that situation.
>> No. 30676 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 8:07 pm
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let's hope his hair dye will hold up this time.
>> No. 30677 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 8:25 pm
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I laughed so hard when I saw that on the Guardian.

>> No. 27223 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 9:27 am
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Push to get staff back to offices amid warning of UK's 'ghost towns'

Workers will be encouraged to return to the office as part of a major media campaign to be launched by the government next week. The television and newspaper messages will promote the government’s aim to reduce the number of employees working from home amid fears that town and city centres are becoming ghost areas as workers stay away.

A report in the Telegraph said the campaign would push the emotional and mental health benefits of mixing with colleagues but also said that ministers would warn that those working from home could be more vulnerable to being sacked.


Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off.
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>> No. 30649 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:24 pm
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Now look here! We might be a Constitutional Monarchy, But once in a while when they see fit we get to (with 10,000-100,000 other people), Pick a person, who is in the same club as a bunch of other people, and the lead of that club might get to pick who is in the government as long as more people get a seat from their club in a house and the monarch approves. Also there are a bunch of people who have equal power as the person we picked who are there because they are feudal barons.
>> No. 30651 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:26 pm
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Can't say fairer than that.
>> No. 30652 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:27 pm
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Have you got any that aren't Scottish though? As no Scottish Politician has ever really done anything of much substance.
>> No. 30655 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 9:25 pm
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Heard you the first time m7.
>> No. 30656 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 10:08 pm
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I thought we were playing no true Scotsman?

>> No. 9430 Anonymous
26th January 2016
Tuesday 10:09 pm
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Huddersfield charity shop finally says goodbye to a shutter which lasted 26 years


That's it. That's literally it. A charity shop has replaced one of its roller shutters after having the same one for 26 years. It's all go in Huddersfield.

I challenge you lads to find a more pointless news story than this.
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>> No. 30543 Anonymous
21st January 2021
Thursday 3:53 pm
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She looks like the sort who would take a banger in the mouth.
>> No. 30544 Anonymous
21st January 2021
Thursday 4:22 pm
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Given how five minutes of fame works nowadays, she'll have her tits out somewhere soon.
>> No. 30546 Anonymous
21st January 2021
Thursday 4:42 pm
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Very normal.
>> No. 30547 Anonymous
21st January 2021
Thursday 5:19 pm
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What's she pointing at? Her mouth looks alright?
>> No. 30552 Anonymous
21st January 2021
Thursday 6:00 pm
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MILF Bangers, vol 9.

Coming soon to a laptop near you.

>> No. 29789 Anonymous
6th January 2021
Wednesday 9:44 am
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>Four boys and a girl have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to commit murder after a 13-year-old boy was stabbed to death in Reading. Oliver Stephens, known as Olly, was pronounced dead at Bugs Bottom fields, Emmer Green, on Sunday. The five teenagers, all aged 13 or 14, remain in custody, according to Thames Valley Police.


A 13 year old girl paying for her boyfriend to get stabbed to be taught a lesson after he was mad about her sending nudes to other people. I'm pretty sure at that age I was still playing with Pokémon.
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>> No. 29914 Anonymous
7th January 2021
Thursday 9:49 pm
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They can't clap if they can't see their own hands, around your end?
>> No. 29921 Anonymous
7th January 2021
Thursday 10:52 pm
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No. We fear the foxes.
>> No. 29923 Anonymous
7th January 2021
Thursday 11:08 pm
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As you should. This year is ARE YEAR. Again.

Sometimes I forget everyone here is too intellectual to follow the footy.
>> No. 29926 Anonymous
7th January 2021
Thursday 11:27 pm
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Not me.
>> No. 29928 Anonymous
8th January 2021
Friday 12:40 am
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ManU will win it on goal difference. Thanks to all their penalties.

>> No. 29239 Anonymous
6th December 2020
Sunday 8:12 pm
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>'On a knife edge': Britain and EU in last-ditch trade talks

>Britain and the European Union will make a last-ditch attempt to strike a post-Brexit trade deal this week, with probably just days left for negotiators to avert a chaotic parting of ways at the end of the year. Ireland’s prime minister, whose country would face more economic pain than any of the other 26 EU member states in the case of a “no deal”, cautioned against over-optimism, putting the chances of an agreement at only 50-50.

>British Prime Minister Boris Johnson and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen spoke over the weekend to get their teams back to the negotiating table after talks stalled on three thorny issues. They are due to hold another call on Monday evening in the hope that, by then, stubborn differences over fishing rights in UK waters, fair competition - referred to as the level playing field - and ways to solve future disputes will have narrowed.

>“This is the final throw of the dice,” said a British source close to the talks before they resumed in Brussels on Sunday.

So what is the current status of your rice and do you reckon there will be a last minute deal?
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>> No. 29640 Anonymous
30th December 2020
Wednesday 5:29 pm
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Her husband is proper posh.

>> No. 29641 Anonymous
30th December 2020
Wednesday 5:50 pm
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Not sure but it's just German for "of" or "from".
>> No. 29643 Anonymous
30th December 2020
Wednesday 5:56 pm
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How about this https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/politicsandpolicy/uk-eu-agreement-parliament/

How about that N. Ireland is in the single market and the rest of the UK isn't? This threatens the break up of the union, with Scotland asking why it can't be part of the single market too.

How about the fact the 80% of the UK economy is services and it is not covered under this deal?

How about the fact that wasn't Brexit meant to be about cutting "red tape" but this deal has instead created a bunch? Notably in trading certain goods (which need certificates), travel of pets, driving abroad etc
>> No. 29646 Anonymous
30th December 2020
Wednesday 7:19 pm
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It did and they did, but you still see it in surnames from time to time.
>> No. 29648 Anonymous
30th December 2020
Wednesday 7:46 pm
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I just read up on it. Both Germany and Austria lost their distinct social class of nobility when their respective emperors abdicated after WWI, but Germans were allowed to keep their surnames and titles. Austria went a step further and by law stripped people's surnames of anything indicating nobility. In Austria, a former Count of XYZ was thereafter only Mr. XYZ.

But apparently, that loss of class status mainly hit insignificant noble families, who weren't wealthy or influential and had little more than their surname itself to distinguish themselves from the rest of the general population. Whereas the household names of Austrian higher nobility largely continued their lifestyle, even though they lost their class privileges on paper, and still form a tightly knit group today.

>> No. 15041 Anonymous
10th May 2018
Thursday 5:43 pm
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>Drag queens banned from performing at Free Pride Glasgow event over fears acts will offend trans people


>The organisation said in a statement that it hopes to create a safe space for all members of the LGBTQIA+ (lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, queer, intersex, asexual) community, and that while the decision may "disappoint" some people "the needs of the most marginalised groups within our community come first."


>Free Pride Glasgow said: “It was felt that it [drag performance] would make some of those who were transgender or questioning their gender uncomfortable. It was felt by the group within the Trans/Non Binary Caucus that some drag performance, particularly cis drag, hinges on the social view of gender and making it into a joke, however transgender individuals do not feel as though their gender identity is a joke.”

Life rarely takes the piss out of itself like this. It almost sounds like the plot of a South Park episode.
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>> No. 29427 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 1:39 pm
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The Graun's reporting of the bloke suing his parents for chucking his $29,000 porn stash used this glorious image.
>> No. 29444 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 6:39 pm
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I might need to email them to see if I can have a full HD sized version to use as a wallpaper. I really like the Hustler with the woman dribbling ice cream all over herself, high art.
>> No. 29445 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 6:46 pm
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Getty have it.

>> No. 29448 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 7:59 pm
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Setting this as my missus' wallpaper to get her back for that little Owen Jones stunt earlier this year.
>> No. 29538 Anonymous
24th December 2020
Thursday 8:33 pm
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This had fucking better be automated. If some spamming cunt thinks this place is a likely venue for shifting such tat, I despair.

>> No. 26516 Anonymous
27th July 2020
Monday 9:48 am
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...It is important to state that it is not communities that commit crimes but individuals. Those convicted are squarely Henry Long, Albert Bowers and Jessie Cole, not thousands of innocent people who share their heritage. Tarring all Travellers with the brush of these men’s callousness is as unfair as tarring all Catholics for paedophile priests or all eskimos for daft militant wog attacks.

Yet to completely ignore the cultural context of this crime is wrong. Henry Long, the ringleader, was removed from school at the age of 12; he followed his father and grandfather into the thieving “trade”. Albert Bowers left school at 11 and before the trial had already picked up three youth convictions. These young men could not read or write. For years they had not known school or structure. Their education was in petty crime.

Such problems do not solely beset Travellers but they are far more prevalent among Traveller communities. If we want to be a country where all are treated the same, where all live by the same rules and where the state does its best to furnish each with a decent chance in life, we have to end the squeamishness that prevents open talk about Travellers. This squeamishness is down to two fears. First, the fear of retribution. After the verdict on PC Harper’s death it emerged that the judge, Mr Justice Edis, brought the first trial to a temporary halt over an alleged potential plot to intimidate jurors. Extra security measures were brought in. Jurors were referred to by number not name. One juror was dismissed for acting oddly in court, mouthing pleasantries at the defendants. Whether she was motivated by misplaced friendliness or fear of someone up in that public gallery we do not know, but most will not be shocked by revelations of intimidation.

The fear of the bullet, the knife, the burnt-out car; this helps the lawless elements of Traveller culture maintain a certain power, and gives the law-abiding majority of Travellers a terrible name.

The second fear is that of being labelled racist. Since the Equality Act 2010 recognised Gypsy, Roma and Travellers as ethnic minorities, race has been used to shield this culture from due scrutiny. Sensible questions about why those within these groups are more likely to be in prison, more likely to be illiterate or more likely to suffer domestic violence prompt cries of racism. In April a Channel 4 Dispatches programme titled The Truth About Traveller Crime was dubbed “dehumanising” by activists and investigated by Ofcom. Desperate not to offend, the authorities turn a culturally sensitive blind eye.

The fears hush most into silence, and the silence means the stand-off between Travellers and the rest of society continues uneasily. Many feel disquieted to see the mobile homes rolling on to a local beauty spot, a portent too often of littering, mess, anti-social behaviour. Meanwhile those in Traveller communities are hardly “living their best lives”. Travellers die about ten years earlier than the rest of us. They have higher rates of chronic illness. Their suicide rates are six times higher.

You might argue that they choose to live like this, but the babies born into that life don’t. Many are destined to repeat the same pattern: leave school in your early teens, drift into a life of odd jobs and petty crime, never move beyond the circles you were raised in. As long as the culturally sensitive force-field exists around Travellers, these children are abandoned to a fate that should not be tolerated in 21st-century Britain.

It is a scandal that some Gypsy and Traveller children are taken out of school at primary age; that some start work as young as ten; that about 65 per cent of Traveller children are persistently absent from school; that they have the lowest attainment of all ethnic groups throughout their school years and are far more likely to be excluded. Are we to be surprised when they choose crime?
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>> No. 29388 Anonymous
16th December 2020
Wednesday 2:50 pm
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The verdict was pretty much "we're almost certain that you knew you were dragging him behind your car, but we can't completely prove it."
>> No. 29411 Anonymous
18th December 2020
Friday 11:03 pm
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Yes they were scum, completely without remorse.
>> No. 29412 Anonymous
18th December 2020
Friday 11:16 pm
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>> No. 29413 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 4:09 am
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What law forbids being unremorseful?
>> No. 29416 Anonymous
19th December 2020
Saturday 4:56 am
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No law forbids it, but it's a recognised factor in sentencing and parole guidelines.

>> No. 29291 Anonymous
11th December 2020
Friday 7:21 am
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>Lloyds Banking Group has revealed that its black staff are being paid nearly 20% less than their colleagues, as it became the first major UK bank to disclose its black pay gap.

>Britain’s biggest high street lender said the earnings gap was due to a lack of black staff in senior positions that come with larger salaries and bigger bonuses. Figures released as part of its wider race action plan showed the median pay gap between black staff and their colleagues was 19.7%, while the bonus gap stood at 37.6%.

>Black employees make up 1.5% of Lloyds staff, but only hold 0.6% of the top jobs at Lloyds. The bank pledged in July to increase the number of black staff in senior roles to 3% by 2024 – bringing it in line with the black population in England and Wales – in response to Black Lives Matter protests this summer.


I guess we've moved on from the gender pay gap to the black pay gap now?
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>> No. 29354 Anonymous
13th December 2020
Sunday 1:41 pm
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I think you're broadly correct, yeah. I think I was just mincing words a bit because I don't want to entirely rule out the possibility of racism and sexism happening independently of class.

I'm sure the former two would decrease massively if class dynamics changed, but I can't say if it would disappear entirely.
>> No. 29363 Anonymous
14th December 2020
Monday 4:06 am
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Conrad Lant runs (or did run ten years ago) a studio/rehearsal space in newcastle, it was all a bit odd when I went. You'd think he wouldn't need to charge teenagers fifteen quid an hour to rent your room but there it is.
>> No. 29366 Anonymous
14th December 2020
Monday 7:18 am
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Not surprising, most bands of that sort aren't exactly loaded. They're big names in terms of influence and respect, but they never truly had commercial success in their heyday, or if they did, that money will have long since dried up.

I always think it must be really weird to be at that level of sort-of-famous, in a very specific demographic, where you can wander about Tescos and the vast majority of people have absolutely no clue who you are, but every so often you bump into some grebo who points at you and goes "Fuck me it's Cronos!"
>> No. 29371 Anonymous
14th December 2020
Monday 12:55 pm
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I think that's the only sort of fame I could tolerate. Back in my cheflad days I ran a place in a small town and people would just stop me and talk to me on the street about poached eggs and such - sometimes with reverence like I was on the telly, sometimes with familiarity like I lived in the same house as them. It was awful - it made financial and logistical sense for me to move to that town when I worked there, but I much preferred living many miles away.

The bloke dressed as a builder in the "hands, face, space" adverts is a family friend, and apparently nobody has directly recognised him from it, but often people just stare at him in confusion, trying to work out why he looks familiar to them. That doesn't sound fun.
>> No. 29372 Anonymous
14th December 2020
Monday 1:55 pm
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Should've taken your chef hat off when out and about.

>> No. 29287 Anonymous
10th December 2020
Thursday 1:03 am
29287 Airline boss ‘sacked’ after plane traces giant penis in the sky

A Russian airline boss has reportedly been sacked after a plane traced a giant penis in the sky. Aeroflot’s low-cost airline Pobeda came under scrutiny when a flight from Moscow veered from its path last month for ‘irregular manoeuvres’ with 102 passengers on board.

>> No. 29219 Anonymous
4th December 2020
Friday 11:36 pm
29219 Mayor of Liverpool's Been Nicked, lads.
>The mayor of Liverpool, Joe Anderson, has been arrested as part of a fraud investigation and suspended from the Labour party.

>Anderson, who has led Liverpool for a decade, was one of five men arrested across Merseyside on Friday in an investigation into building and development contracts in the city. He is being interviewed by police on suspicion of conspiracy to commit bribery and witness intimidation.


I always thought he seemed a bit dodgy on the news, but I just reckoned it was because he looks like the Kingpin from Spiderman.
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>> No. 29223 Anonymous
5th December 2020
Saturday 3:31 am
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Similar thing happening in Croydon council. Wait a few months, and I will post it fresh off the presses on my Croydon thread.
>> No. 29225 Anonymous
5th December 2020
Saturday 6:44 am
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Not before time. Local politics in Liverpool is notoriously corrupt and hasn't really recovered from the old Militant days. Just a shame that it only happened when Big Joe seemed to be redeeming himself.
>> No. 29226 Anonymous
5th December 2020
Saturday 8:04 am
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I expect Derek Hatton will rise from his coffin to give an opinion on all this soon.
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5th December 2020
Saturday 8:27 am
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You got me all excited there. I wonder whether he's a capitalist property developer or a socialist builder this week. Maybe he's just Schrodinger's Twat, existing in a quantum superposition between the two.
>> No. 29235 Anonymous
6th December 2020
Sunday 3:45 pm
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It turns out that Degsy is actually the 72-year-old implicated in this, and Anderson's own son is the 33-year-old. They're all fucked politically, at the very least.

>> No. 18914 Anonymous
9th April 2019
Tuesday 5:38 pm
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Department store Debenhams has officially gone into administration after the shop rejected plans by Sports Direct's Mike Asheley to save it.

FTI Consulting has now been appointed as administrators for the chain, whose shops will continue trading for now. Debenhams is expected to close 50 of its 165 stores in the future, but no timescale has been announced yet.


How come it seems like almost every high street shop is either in administration or on the brink of it?
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>> No. 29145 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 7:38 pm
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Hmm. Should go well.
>> No. 29146 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 8:17 pm
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Time I actually get onto the website everything I want will be gone. I bet they won't even have big discounts considering everyone will want to come away with something.
>> No. 29152 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 9:30 pm
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I've been dressing myself almost exclusively via Debenhams since I was about 22, when I learned that women don't really notice or care how you dress, as long as it looks deliberate - and some of them are very much into the depressed dad look anyway.

It will be a shame to see them go, but I fully understand why, I have not once stood in a queue at a Debenhams in those last nine years.
>> No. 29153 Anonymous
1st December 2020
Tuesday 10:18 pm
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Comparing to Amazon, I'm not actually sure I saved any money and now feel a bit silly. At least I finally bought something from the place after all those times I just walked through to get to the shopping centre.

Watch everything arrive now in the wrong sizes.
>> No. 29160 Anonymous
2nd December 2020
Wednesday 2:05 am
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How's your polo shirt collection? I have quite the selection - Mantaray, Rocha, St Duffer, all picked up in the sales.

>> No. 29059 Anonymous
29th November 2020
Sunday 7:56 am
29059 Dave Prowse
Personally I think the Green Cross Man was his best work.

Rest in Peace Darth Vader.
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>> No. 29101 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 12:05 am
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Hedgehogs are wonderful little creatures.
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30th November 2020
Monday 11:37 am
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This hit home for me on how accents have become more subtle in recent decades. Mostly because I'm now enough of an old fart that I can notice how different I sound compared to the next generation.

Probably for the best, you wouldn't think a Peterborough-esque accent would be difficult but I do have to consciously slow down when talking to foreigners.
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30th November 2020
Monday 6:01 pm
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>how accents have become more subtle in recent decades

Apart from Scouse, which has inexplicably mutated beyond recognition. It used to be a gentle sing-song accent but now it sounds like a cat getting raped.
>> No. 29121 Anonymous
30th November 2020
Monday 6:46 pm
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Ye fooooochhhhhhhing pricchhhhhhhhhhhhchchchchchhhh
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3rd December 2020
Thursday 8:57 pm
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Oh fuck that's fucking horrible. No charm, you can barely hear what the little shit is saying and-

...I just got to the bit where they cross the road. Is this like the 'How Now Blue Cow' where she goes to the meat factory, or is that actually a 'Think!' advert and a real one? That was pleasantly jarring.

>> No. 27146 Anonymous
26th August 2020
Wednesday 10:54 pm
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I suppose it's time for a new thread seeing as the previous one is almost at 1,700 posts.

It's been kicking off in America (again) after the police have shot a black man (again). A couple of protesters/rioters have been killed after they were driven by the police towards an alt-right militia, with this planned in advance.
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>> No. 28372 Anonymous
12th October 2020
Monday 1:42 pm
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>> No. 29064 Anonymous
29th November 2020
Sunday 9:45 am
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>A majority of people believe Black Lives Matter, the anti-racism movement that spread across the UK this summer, has increased racial tension, according to a poll.

>Just over half (55%) of UK adults believe the BLM protests that took place in big cities but also in the Shetland Islands and the Isle of Wight, increased racial tensions, according to a survey of more than 2,000 people by pollsters Opinium. Only 17% of the people polled in October disagreed. The polling also showed 44% of ethnic minorities felt BLM increased racial tensions.

>> No. 29065 Anonymous
29th November 2020
Sunday 9:48 am
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But that doesn't really tell us what people think about BLM itself, just what they think the outcomes of BLM's protests have been.
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29th November 2020
Sunday 10:23 am
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The general consensus seems to be that people agree with the notion that black lives matter but have a much less favourable view on the clusterfuck that is BLM UK as an organisation.
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29th November 2020
Sunday 10:30 am
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Given that the same research shows that Asian people have had a similar rise in racist experiences to black people, they may have a point about the rise not being entirely due to BLM's actions.
Black and Asian Lives Matter would be so much easier to pronounce though, just BALM. Then you'd get some interesting confused mythology referencing Poe; "There is no BALM in Gilead" as in, there should be no minorities in the promised land, only that gets tied up with how Atwood used Gilead in her books.

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