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>> No. 12568 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 3:09 pm
12568 Can somebody translate this?
Can somebody translate this sentence in plain English? It's the answer that I got after a job interview. I aced the technical part, but I struggled a bit with the chatting with the bosses.


"We felt you were very personable, however we did not feel that you are the right cultural fit for the organisation at this time."

Thanks, lads. Now I am going to get plastered. I really wanted that job.
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>> No. 12569 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 3:14 pm
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I think he might be saying you were a bit of an autist.
>> No. 12570 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 4:55 pm
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>>12568
It's better not to apply for jobs you actually want because then you can't get disappointed.
>> No. 12571 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 6:09 pm
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When I hire people, once I've established they have the required level of competence, it boils down largely to personality and who we think would fit in best with the rest of the team and how I think they'd react in certain situations. Apart from when we had to decide between two lasses and ended up offering the job to the fitter one.
>> No. 12572 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 6:14 pm
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Personable seems like veiled criticism. Like you're socially inept, but not in an offensive way. Nice but socially dim.
>> No. 12573 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 8:18 pm
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It means (that it's their assessment that) you wouldn't gel with their "corporate culture", e.g. the people who already work there and the way that they do their job.
>> No. 12574 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 9:47 pm
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fuck me. It was an IT company full of autistic nerds, I thought I would fit right in. any advice?
>> No. 12575 Anonymous
3rd September 2018
Monday 9:58 pm
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I'm surprised everyone is taking the statement at face value. 'Not the right fit' is basically recruitment speak for everything from 'we interviewed someone better than you' to 'we thought you were a weirdo' to 'we hired the boss's cousin' to 'we're pretty sure you shat yourself in the middle of the interview' to 'when we asked you what you'd like to drink, you said 'a pint of cider and you meant it'. I've used 'not the right fit' in all of those scenarios.

My point is, I wouldn't recommend doing any serious soul searching on the back of the stock HR phrases you'll be fed in a rejection.

As you said you struggled to talk with the bosses, you already know what you need to work on - social stuff and projecting confidence (real or fake, it doesn't matter). It could be that you're fully qualified for the job, but the bloke in after you got on with the bosses like a house on fire. That'll happen, and it's not really a judgement on you, just more on the competency of the other chap.
>> No. 12576 Anonymous
4th September 2018
Tuesday 12:56 am
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>>12574
Well then, maybe they thought you were a bit of a normie.
>> No. 12577 Anonymous
4th September 2018
Tuesday 1:07 am
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>>12574
Maybe you're too cool, maybe they realised you were full of it when you started talking about "Wenger bringing Walcott on that early", maybe someone already there vouched for a mate and they had to bump off everyone else for no good reason.
>> No. 12578 Anonymous
4th September 2018
Tuesday 1:34 am
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>>12575

This. Bad culture fit is the reason people give when they don't actually have a good reason.
>> No. 12579 Anonymous
4th September 2018
Tuesday 12:16 pm
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>>12575
>My point is, I wouldn't recommend doing any serious soul searching on the back of the stock HR phrases you'll be fed in a rejection.

This is honestly very good advice for life, especially considering that anyone who works in HR is a morally bankrupt leech upon the face of humanity.
>> No. 12580 Anonymous
4th September 2018
Tuesday 2:39 pm
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>>12579
>anyone who works in HR is a morally bankrupt leech upon the face of humanity.
I'm not sure I'd agree with that assessment. If anything, they're the ones that have to take input from the actual morally bankrupt leeches upon the face of humanity and turn it into something that doesn't get the company sued. HR is just a machine that works on the basis of bullshit in, bullshit out.

In short, HR nonsense is just them trying to find a plausible cover for whatever bullshit management hands down.
>> No. 12609 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 11:31 am
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OK, guys, I am about to go for another job interview: tech support guy for Amazon in Rugby. Any advice?
>> No. 12610 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 12:40 pm
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>>12609

Make it clear to them you're willing to be exploited.
>> No. 12611 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 1:21 pm
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>>12609

This >>12610
IE, wear a ballgag and leather cuffs at the interview, works every time.
>> No. 12612 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 1:25 pm
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>>12580
Your analogy still essentially likens HR personnel to a U-bend, so ultimately it seems like we agree.
>> No. 12613 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 5:42 pm
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>>12610

I know, Amazon corporate culture is total shit. The job is marginally better because it is in tech support and not one of those slaves in picking/packing. I do not expect to stay long there, just about ten months to improve my CV. At least I am childless and alone, so I can devote myself fully to the workplace. The interviewer is going to appreciate it.
>> No. 12614 Anonymous
18th September 2018
Tuesday 6:02 pm
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>>12613
Tell them that you've licensed your intellectual property to an offshore company through which you'll have to be paid.
>> No. 12617 Anonymous
19th September 2018
Wednesday 5:22 pm
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>>12573
It could well be a cop out or template response, but it could be this exactly. You may all be on the spectrum IT nerds, but there are still people with different preferences and roles to play.

For example, having one person obsessed with process can be beneficial in keeping the rest of the team from cutting corners and building tech debt; have too many of those and they start downward spiral of process over progress. When that person quits, they may want another one.

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