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>> No. 26115 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 5:36 pm
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I'm trying to get a domain name I can use as an email but I'm an idiot and I'm confused.

I'm looking to get 4 email addresses I can use , say bob@family.com. I don't want to just have a forwarding service to bob@gmail.com, I want to login to an actual mailbox client or webmail login and use that specific email to login.

I'm not interested in web hosting.

Is this possible, and if so where is the best place to do it? I've had a look about and I'm still none the wiser.

Cheers.
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>> No. 26116 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 5:39 pm
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>>26115
https://gsuite.google.co.uk/intl/en_uk/products/gmail/
>> No. 26117 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 5:43 pm
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Easy enough to do, but not necessarily for free. You're looking at hosting your own email server, or using an off-the-shelf cloud solution like Google's G Suite or Microsoft Exchange online.

https://gsuite.google.co.uk/pricing.html?tab_activeEl=tabset-companies

https://products.office.com/en-gb/exchange/compare-microsoft-exchange-online-plans

I was lucky enough to get a Google Apps account back when they had a non-expiring 5 user trial plan. Still use it for all my domains.
>> No. 26121 Anonymous
11th October 2017
Wednesday 6:35 pm
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>>26115

> I'm not interested in web hosting.

Most domain resellers will offer basic hosting packages, web hosting, email hosting, or a combination.
>> No. 26123 Anonymous
12th October 2017
Thursday 10:59 am
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>>26115
>I want to login to an actual mailbox client or webmail login and use that specific email to login.
I know it would be frowned upon to just call you grandad, but I'm curious as to the exact use case you're trying to satisfy here.

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>> No. 26112 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 11:12 pm
26112 Neural networking
I figured it was time for me to drag my arse into the twenty first century and at least learn how to program a neural network. It doesn't seem that complicated, but it occurs to me that I'll need quite a bit of training data.

Where can I go to get piles and piles of files? I was wondering whether I could train an AI reading a bunch of novels in text file format and then set it loose trying to write semi-intelligible sentences. Even if it's not text files, it seems that you need loads of well formatted raw data to train any AI and this is one of the things tech companies are super hungry for these days. Any other sort of raw, open, free data would suffice if anyone's got any hints.

I was thinking about writing it in BASIC (which is the only language I ever properly learnt, at the tender age of five, and so has stuck with me my whole life) or maybe in an Excel/LibreOffice Calc/Google Sheets spreadsheet (in which case free .CSV files might be preferable) because it'd be more visually comprehensible. I can just about read C++, I could probably write a neural network with it if I applied myself.

Has anyone else worked with neural networks? Are they difficult to program? What's the best language?
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>> No. 26113 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 12:01 am
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As far as I understand it, NNs work much better in object-oriented languages, so perhaps try Visual BASIC.NET instead of straight BASIC.
>> No. 26114 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 4:37 am
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https://www.coursera.org/learn/machine-learning

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>> No. 26103 Anonymous
26th September 2017
Tuesday 9:19 pm
26103 Mobile Ad Blocker
Is there such a thing as a decent ad-blocker for Android?

It's occured to me that ads are responsible for probably half of my entire data usage. I spend more time scrolling past fucking reams of obnoxious clickbait bullshit than I do reading the actual article sometimes. Some sites are worse than others, but I can't exactly pick and choose what sites I visit based on that. Not to mention those cocking Youtube ads.

Being on a shitty tarrif, it simply angers me to think that I am wasting data so that these bastards can shovel vomit into my eyeballs. I'm actually paying for them to advertise to me. How do I stop it?
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>> No. 26107 Anonymous
26th September 2017
Tuesday 11:50 pm
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I was about to say I think advertising companies should be made to pay for data that they use when sending you adverts, then it occured to me that that would violate net netrality, then it occured to me 'Is net neutrality protest actually a front for online advertising groups?'
>> No. 26108 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 1:37 am
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>>26105
Yeah, I use Firefox with NoScript.
>> No. 26109 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 2:42 pm
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>Not to mention those cocking Youtube ads.

If you use the app Newpipe, you don't get any ads. It's a lightweight YT frontend.

As to apps, I use Adaway (needs root) blocks through hosts file I think. Also uBlock origin on Firefox.

>>26106
Doesn't Brave show you its own ads though?
>> No. 26110 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 9:16 pm
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>If you use the app Newpipe, you don't get any ads. It's a lightweight YT frontend.
At least until Google gets monopoly penis envy again and blocks it because of a "broken user experience", which is in no way whatsoever a euphemism for not being able to cream off their ad money.
>> No. 26111 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 10:40 pm
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If you want to be really thrifty about it you could use a text-only browser. I've been surprised at how useable it's been when I've been stuck with flaky GPRS on a train or whatever.

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>> No. 25953 Anonymous
11th July 2017
Tuesday 1:52 am
25953 Cyber security and Python
Any recommendations for books/resources on cyber security? The recent hackings got me curious, and I have been reading around it since. Something more under the hood type of book for a noive.

Also I picked up Python again. I learn best by doing small projects. Any resources for something like that would be appreciated too.
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>> No. 26097 Anonymous
30th August 2017
Wednesday 8:23 pm
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>>26096

I'll take both of youse cunts at the same time.
>> No. 26098 Anonymous
30th August 2017
Wednesday 8:49 pm
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>>26097

Yeah well I'm bringing me brother, and he used to be in the cadets.
>> No. 26099 Anonymous
31st August 2017
Thursday 6:46 pm
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>>26098
I've had your bro and he's a pussy.
>> No. 26100 Anonymous
31st August 2017
Thursday 9:18 pm
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>>26099

Yeah well your brother is a female to male tranny and he has a pussy.
>> No. 26101 Anonymous
31st August 2017
Thursday 9:29 pm
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>>26100
Isn't that a bussy?

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>> No. 26068 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 2:04 pm
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Seriously, what's the most professional code? The first is the coolest but the second is the clearest.

for i in range(1, 101): s = (i % 3 == 0) * 'Fizz' + (i % 5 == 0) * 'Buzz' print(s if s else i)


for i in range(1, 101): s = '' if i % 3 == 0: s += 'Fizz' if i % 5 == 0: s += 'Buzz' if len(s) > 0: print(s) else: print(i)

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>> No. 26084 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 10:28 pm
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No, too many comments can be as bad as none at all. A line or two at the start of each method/function (depending on what you're programming) and then a line or two above any complex logical blocks. You don't need to overdo it.
>> No. 26085 Anonymous
20th August 2017
Sunday 1:20 pm
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>>26083
No. If used sparingly but judiciously comments can be of immense help for future readers but they're not "free".

Comments act as noise when trying to read code so the value they add must be worth the distraction.

They also require maintenance just like the code does, otherwise they risk drifting from the code they comment. Whoever gets to work on the code next then has to track down whether the comment provides the correct intention but the code is wrong or if the code is correct but the comment's outdated.
>> No. 26086 Anonymous
20th August 2017
Sunday 2:01 pm
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>>26083

Good code should be fairly self-explanatory. If you're writing a lot of comments, it's usually a sign that your code is overly complex and insufficiently modular. Comments should be the exception rather than the rule, used to mark out gotchas or clarify things that are unavoidably complex.
>> No. 26088 Anonymous
23rd August 2017
Wednesday 1:25 am
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Since any "coolness" is voided by its being fizzbuzz, you may as well opt for complete clarity.
>> No. 26089 Anonymous
23rd August 2017
Wednesday 1:42 am
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>>26088
You're quite right. If anyone brought me fizzbuzz in an interview I would walk; lack of imagination.

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>> No. 26066 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 12:09 pm
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Hi lads,
As of a few days ago my PC will startup but won't get to the login screen, it'll then restart and get to the loading screen then say scanning disk and then repair, 100% this takes less than a few seconds. After this it takes me to the login screen and everything is fine.
Is one of my HDD's shitting the bed? Something gone wrong in BIOS?
I'm using Win10 if it helps. I've tried googling but since the string search has common phrases I haven't found my problem.

A side note, yesterday I switched my PC off after use, took a shower then came back and switched it back on, this time it booted fine but this morning the "problem" came back. It's not stopping me from using my PC though, but it's obviously not supposed to do that either.

Cheers.
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>> No. 26071 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 3:11 pm
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>>26070
Shutting it down, I close everything before doing so since I know it can mess up a shut down.
Also had no power cuts, otherwise the clocks in the house would need resetting.
>> No. 26072 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 4:18 pm
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>>26071

The disk check function usually starts up after an unexpected shut down. Sometimes you can get infected with malware which refuses to close properly before shut down, and it's possible that malware's inability to properly close, rather than its needing to be automatically force closed, is being treated by windows as an improper shut down, promoting a disk check.

That's one possibility. I don't know anything about Windows 10, but that sort of thing is common with Windows.
>> No. 26073 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 4:29 pm
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If windows programs are running I wouldn't have thought it's a problem with the BIOS, but I don't really know what I'm talking about and am only replying to post my own problem.

I've managed to lock myself out of my windows 7 machine with a poorly managed password change. I've found this program, NTpasswd (http://www.pogostick.net/~pnh/ntpasswd), that looks like it'll help but I'm having trouble creating a bootable USB with it. The helpfile says to 'install the bootloader' and gives this command:

j:\syslinux.exe -ma j:

Does this look like the command for a specific operating system? I'm trying to use it with Lubuntu, which isn't working, and am wondering if I use a friends windows machine it might work (different commands and all that).

I'm not too fussed about losing my computer; taking apart the components and learning how to make a new one is pretty fun. I'd just like to recover a few files and websaves I'd made.

Live and learn, make backups often.
>> No. 26074 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 4:54 pm
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>>26073
I did that years ago and got by just using the windows installation disc.

I think this is basically how I resolved it:

https://www.howtogeek.com/96630/how-to-reset-your-forgotten-windows-password-the-easy-way/
>> No. 26076 Anonymous
19th August 2017
Saturday 5:38 pm
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>>26074
Thats great, thank you. I just hope the PC will boot from USB; it seemed to have problems booting from disk, even when altering the BIOS, when I tried to re-install the OS.

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>> No. 25971 Anonymous
17th July 2017
Monday 1:28 pm
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UK plans age verification for porn websites from 2018

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40628909

People in the UK will have to prove they are 18 before being allowed to access pornography websites from next year, the government is to announce.
Websites will be legally required to install age verification controls by April 2018 as part of a move to make the internet safer for children.
Users may be asked to provide credit card details, as gambling websites do.
Companies breaking the rules set out in the Digital Economy Act face being blocked by their internet provider.


VPNs at the ready, lads.
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>> No. 26029 Anonymous
22nd July 2017
Saturday 1:20 pm
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>>26028
We're not hosted in the UK so I imagine nothing will change except you may have to use a proxy or VPN to access the site.
>> No. 26030 Anonymous
22nd July 2017
Saturday 1:30 pm
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>>26028
It, and a million other sites shut down, porn is no longer normalised and kids are no longer traumatised. Unicorns, fluffy bunnies, and Theresa May's sex tape remains hidden.

Or VPNs abound, kids buy USB sticks full of filth from corner shops and pass it around.
Less technical pornhounds join my not-a-VPN redirector from >>26004 , hope I'm honourable and not logging their depravity for those nice YMCA chaps, and carry on with their pleasures.
I'm so looking forward to Tumblr, Facebook, Wikipedia, Youtube etc. all becoming unreachable because there's filth on them. The mental gymnastics needed to exempt them is going to be a joy to watch, after they collectively flip Theresa the bird.
>> No. 26031 Anonymous
25th July 2017
Tuesday 7:17 pm
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>>26030
My phone network doesn't let me get on the smutty side of Tumblr. I assume because some of the words in their website addresses have naughty words and Three's filter picks it up.
>> No. 26032 Anonymous
25th July 2017
Tuesday 7:20 pm
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>>26031

It won't even let me on the Mass Effect wiki.
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25th July 2017
Tuesday 9:52 pm
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Everyone will be on TOR or something like it by the end of this decade.

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>> No. 25958 Anonymous
14th July 2017
Friday 10:20 pm
25958 Abode's creative suite
I bought the old CS6 a few years back, I'm getting good value from it, but is it worth upgrading to CC2017? I don't really wanna pay monthly, and I'm hearing more and more about the cool new updated versions. So basically is it worth me shelling out?

Thanks
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>> No. 25959 Anonymous
14th July 2017
Friday 10:57 pm
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>>25958
The monthly deal is quite good - it is worth getting the subscription I think just so that the security holes are updated regularly.

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>> No. 25930 Anonymous
7th June 2017
Wednesday 9:27 am
25930 All Watched Over by Machines of Loving Grace
I'm not sure if this even exists, but can someone recommend me some sort of free organiser/calendar application. That has an absurd level of customisation of repeating cycles and an ability to integrate in scripts and other applications to run automatically, potentially other 'smart objects'.

I've decided that I want to attempt to structure my life to an absurd level, where the computer will play music playlists where they left off at fixed times, turn on lights, message my phone to tell me it is time to brush my teeth, tell me every 3 days to practice coding for an hour, every 10 days tell me to cut my nails. Tell me when to order my shopping, when I need to preheat the oven based on the exact mean I’m having that night to always eat at 8 o’clock. Budget time for my exercise routine that scales up depending on how far along the routine I am and previous data I’ve fed it. And that if I need to amend the process there are various options as to how to handle that.

Does this exist, does anything even come close?
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>> No. 25936 Anonymous
8th June 2017
Thursday 11:55 am
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>>25935

In the adult world we call those PAs and yes, what I really want is a PA that works 24-7 and I don't need to see or pay.
>> No. 25937 Anonymous
8th June 2017
Thursday 12:17 pm
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There are some Android apps which family your daily routine. Try 'life rpg' or similar.

This will allow you to micromanage your day, but you may need a separate app to trigger events based on alarms. I used to use one called alarm clock plus which had me perdoing sums to turn the alarm off and could probably be used for events.
>> No. 25938 Anonymous
8th June 2017
Thursday 12:34 pm
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>>25934

Learn Python then.
>> No. 25939 Anonymous
8th June 2017
Thursday 7:58 pm
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An app called Timetune has helped me do this.
>> No. 25944 Anonymous
19th June 2017
Monday 12:33 am
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>>25931
Don't forget Tasker, for your Android smartphone.

Lifehacker is basically an infinite repetition of 'use Tasker and IFTTT to automate your life'.

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>> No. 25940 Anonymous
11th June 2017
Sunday 12:29 pm
25940 drone swarms
China has launched a swarm of 119 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV), breaking its previous record of a swarm of 67 drones, according to the China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC).

https://news.cgtn.com/news/3d4d6a4e3049444e/share_p.html

Interesting article. I've been thinking of a drone purchase for a while - the DJI ones look good, but I have been thinking of building one from scratch - anyone tried building drones/planes?
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>> No. 25941 Anonymous
11th June 2017
Sunday 12:38 pm
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If you do roll our own, avoid the obvious mistakes built into the off the shelf ones.

https://hackaday.com/2013/12/06/skyjack-a-drone-to-hack-all-drones/
>> No. 25942 Anonymous
11th June 2017
Sunday 1:16 pm
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That is specifically one of the pitfalls I'd like to avoid - too many drones use shitty Wifi networks for communication. I would like to do the whole thing with a proper radio control setup - thats still quite hackable but not in as many interesting and varied ways as Wifi.

Spent a lot of time looking at Arduino based setups - http://www.arducopter.co.uk for instance.
>> No. 25943 Anonymous
11th June 2017
Sunday 5:21 pm
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I'd recommend starting out with an Almost-Ready-To-Fly or Ready-To-Fly product from Eachine. If you're starting out you will crash a lot, so it's worth starting out on something cheap and small. The Eachine E010 looks like a toy, but it's a really good trainer quad for indoor or backyard flying. It can be easily upgraded to FPV at a later date.

https://www.banggood.com/Eachine-E010-Mini-2_4G-4CH-6-Axis-Headless-Mode-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1066972.html

When you're ready to upgrade to a full-size 250 quad, you'll need quite a lot of stuff. It's all fairly cheap individually, but it does add up. This video covers what you'll need and how to use it:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Q2KdhtmFA

You'll also want a big packet of spare propellers, a spare motor and speed controller and a couple of extra batteries. If you've got a lot of money to spend and you're serious about the hobby, I'd suggest going with the FRSky Taranis radio and the Aomway Commander FPV goggles.

There are some fairly strict legal restrictions on drone operation. You really need to be aware of the rules, because the Civil Aviation Authority have handed out some massive fines to people who were flying like twats.

If there's no camera at all on your quadcopter or plane, it's just a radio controlled model and can be flown anywhere that is reasonably deemed to be safe. If you stick a camera on, then your model becomes a "small unmanned surveillance aircraft" and the rules get a lot stricter. You can't fly within 50 metres of any person, vehicle or structure that is not entirely under your control, within 150 metres of any "congested area", or more than 400 metres above ground level. If you fly with FPV goggles, you must have a competent observer with you, monitoring the flying area to prevent collisions.

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>> No. 25920 Anonymous
18th May 2017
Thursday 8:49 pm
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I was given a dated Archos tablet. After some messing about I can see the utility in them, but it can no longer run the latest versions of my Android apps.

I'm completely new to tablets, but I'm hoping to find something cheap and cheerful for reading (eBooks and my own notes), and some light internet browsing.

I'm thinking about one of the ASUS ZenPads, probably the bigger 10.1" one. Could this feasibly be used for comfortably study?
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>> No. 25923 Anonymous
19th May 2017
Friday 6:15 pm
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>>25922
I'll never understand why companies persist in thinking putting magnets in electronics is a good idea.
>> No. 25924 Anonymous
19th May 2017
Friday 6:17 pm
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>>25923
So you have to buy another one.
>> No. 25925 Anonymous
19th May 2017
Friday 11:56 pm
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Holy shit tablets have come a long way since I got mine. Looks like it's time for me to upgrade. Is any particular manufacturer considered to be leading the field at the moment?
>> No. 25926 Anonymous
21st May 2017
Sunday 11:26 am
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I can't compare it to Android tablets but the Kindle Fire tablets are pretty good value for money. Only problem is that they are by default hooked into Amazon's app store not Google Play, so quite a few apps available on Android are either not maintained as frequently or completely absent. I'd say it's great for reading ebooks and light internet browsing but if you have want to use a lot of specific non-Amazon apps you may be out of luck.
>> No. 25927 Anonymous
23rd May 2017
Tuesday 8:22 pm
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You can root them then replace the hideous launcher, disable the ads and install Google Play. I've been using my a while just for reading and a Spotify remote. I can't complain for £30.

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>> No. 23774 Anonymous
11th February 2015
Wednesday 11:49 am
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I have a USB hub that I sleep in the same room and its ultrabright boy racer blue LEDs are a nuisance. I can unplug it every night, but that's a nuisance. I've tried taping over the lights but the LEDs are so bright that they kick light out of the USB sockets etc and still manage to make the room glow blue at night.

I don't care about these LEDs and want them gone altogether. Can I open it up and pincer the LEDs, or would that damage the hub? I've had a quick look around on google but don't particularly trust the results.
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>> No. 25915 Anonymous
3rd May 2017
Wednesday 2:54 am
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>>25914
So where do they get used en masse? I know they're in quad copters and that kind of thing, anything else justifies mass production and brings the price down?
>> No. 25916 Anonymous
3rd May 2017
Wednesday 9:16 am
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>>25915
Almost anything you see that's USB charged and not obviously 18650-shaped, will have pouch cells. They're available in hundreds of shapes and capacities, and generally work well, within their limits. https://www.aliexpress.com/store/group/Polymer-battery-wholesale/1681007_510525232.html
Shipping is a bitch, though.
>> No. 25917 Anonymous
3rd May 2017
Wednesday 12:04 pm
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>>25915

Quadcopters and other RC thingumabobs use pouch cells, because you can achieve a higher discharge rate at the same weight. Cylindrical cells are mainly used in bulk applications - electric cars and bikes, power tools, that sort of thing. A cordless drill might use eight 18650s, an electric car might use a couple of thousand. The market for cylindrical cells is gradually moving towards the 21700 size, which is slightly more energy dense.

Pouch cells can be economically produced in fairly small quantities, so you can often design the battery to fit the product rather than vice-versa. This is a big advantage for mobile devices where every millimetre matters.
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3rd May 2017
Wednesday 12:33 pm
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This thread continues to deliver. Good job lads.
>> No. 25928 Anonymous
29th May 2017
Monday 11:06 pm
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>>23774 Blue Tac lad, come on... easy option.

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>> No. 25899 Anonymous
2nd May 2017
Tuesday 9:35 pm
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I need a cheap printer, which will live in my bedroom, to kick out invoices and reports. I know from working with printers for a decade or so that early LaserJets are built like tanks and are absolutely reliable, as well as reasonably compact, and they're cheap on ebay... but unfortunately the toners/fusers are now quite pricey, equalling the cost of the printer or more.

Any advice on the cheapest way to print, per page? Just knocking out some draft-quality documents, colour not really needed but would be a mild bonus.
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>> No. 25907 Anonymous
2nd May 2017
Tuesday 10:59 pm
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Amazon sell a Pantum laser printer for 31 quid. It's wireless and black and white and I swear by mine.
>> No. 25909 Anonymous
2nd May 2017
Tuesday 11:05 pm
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>>25903
Most of them. Epson are a bit odd - some of their inks are somewhat odd, with pigments held in a solvent that smells funny. (My R2400, for instance - pigment inks, and 8 colours. Tesco value ink isn't going to do the job for that. I buy the inks by the 0.5l and pipe them in to fake cartridges, CISS-style. )

So - maybe. Check t'internet.
>> No. 25910 Anonymous
2nd May 2017
Tuesday 11:48 pm
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Use knock-off toner cartridges. The print quality is very slightly worse than using original toner, but it's perfectly acceptable for office use. Knock-off drums are more of a mixed bag, so if you're buying a second-hand printer you might want to inquire about the condition of the drum.

You can get a perfectly good WiFi laser printer for £60.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-HL-1210W-Mono-Laser-Printer/dp/B00NUB8J3Q/
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2nd May 2017
Tuesday 11:52 pm
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>>25909

Inkjets don't really make economic sense unless you print an awful lot of photos. Online photo printing services are much better value for the occasional set of prints.
>> No. 25912 Anonymous
3rd May 2017
Wednesday 1:05 am
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Seems like the toners are quite cheap, and can be refilled at home anyway. Might go for that one.

Shame it's not cheaper on ebay. Was hoping for something in the £40 region, with a toner that's good for 10,000 pages or something, like the HP ones.

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>> No. 25894 Anonymous
28th April 2017
Friday 1:01 pm
25894 Handheld document/book scanner
This might be a bit of a strange request, but can anybody recommend a good quality, durable (battery and general lifespan) and reliable document and/or book scanner?
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>> No. 25895 Anonymous
28th April 2017
Friday 1:53 pm
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Handheld scanners are rubbish.

If you need to occasionally scan a few pages, use your phone. There are great apps that will instantly produce print-ready PDFs. As long as your phone has a half-decent camera, you'll get perfectly usable results.

http://lifehacker.com/five-best-mobile-document-scanning-apps-1691417781

If you need to digitise large quantities of documents, use a Scansnap iX500. It does 25ppm full duplex and you can get spare parts at a reasonable price. If you need to digitise large quantities of books that you don't mind destroying, take them to a printing shop and have them cut off the spine on their guillotine. You can then run the loose pages through the iX500.

If you need to digitise large quantities of books that you can't destroy, you'll want a dedicated book scanner. The Scansnap SV600 is acceptable, but the Archivist Quill is the cheapest serious option.
>> No. 25896 Anonymous
28th April 2017
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Your phone.
>> No. 25897 Anonymous
28th April 2017
Friday 7:50 pm
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>If you need to occasionally scan a few pages, use your phone. There are great apps that will instantly produce print-ready PDFs. As long as your phone has a half-decent camera, you'll get perfectly usable results.
This. On top of simply spitting out images, some apps will even do cool things like pick out the edges of the document and distort the image so it has the right proportions, and then attempt to read it.

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