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Hi eco/ |
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I'll be pushing 70 when the best estimates say we'll run out, and presumably so will you. I would just concentrate dying around about the last barrel. |
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This combined with the food problems spells disaster for countless millions, possibly billions. |
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Get some land, stash fuel, water sterilisation tablets and food, and make sure that you have an axe, a spade and a good bucket. You might like to plant some fruit trees now, that they might bear fruit so many years down the line. |
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The Chinese are going to eat us alive, that's all you need to know. |
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>>1513 |
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I've got food for over a year, water, clothes, tools, seeds and fuel. If I was the last man alive on Earth tomorrow I'd not be the least bit uncomfortable for at least a year and could survive for longer. |
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It's a shame this place is anonymous in some ways as we could arrange bulk buying and such for stocking up otherwise. |
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I think you're all being very pessimistic. I personally think things will trundle on ok, governments will invest in other energy sources as and when it becomes necessary and/or economically viable. I don't think many people in the developed world really need to worry about it that much. |
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It's not transport or energy production that bothers me. The EU is heading for 100% renewable energy by 2050 and viable electric motors have been around for decades. It could even lead to a global renaissance in train and ocean travel as air dies a death, which could be lovely. The thing that gets me is plastic. What the hell are we going to do when there is no more new plastic being created? |
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>>1506 |
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In Yugoslavia the farms were hit the worst of all by the bandits. What went on with them was apalling (although not out of the norm for such a situation wherever you go in the world). Naturally the devestation of these farms only made the situation for everyone worse as food production tends to drop off after you rob, rape and murder the farmer and his family. Bandits don't think long-term or altruistically though. |
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It's plain common sense to be prepared. Does anyone really think Gordon Brown, Dave and all the other idiots in charge are trustworthy for a worst case scenario or actually preparing everyone for the future or will create a master plan to save them from whole cloth once the disaster is on your doorstop? They couldn't be trusted to make a cup of tea. |
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Uh oh: http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/damian-carrington-blog/2011/jan/28/climate-change-food-bubble?CMP=twt_fd |
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>>1528 here. |
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>>1533 |
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I say with confidence that anybody who hasn't realized something is wrong by now ... is not going to realize it later. |
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frazer.jpg |
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20071125_paedofinder.jpg >>1541 |
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itscoming.png War, famine, plague, earthquakes and volcanic disruption and death. Ash clouds that blot out the sun. Solar flares that wipe out our technology and then solar stillnes that freezes what is left. |
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>>1506 |
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OP here |
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What we are seeing developing are not isolated incidents around the world, these are all part of what will be remembered as the first Great War of the new millenium. Civil war spreads to regional and then to world war. Economic and trade wars lead to true wars. Cold wars become hot. |
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when it gets too costly electricity suppliers will just switch to nuclear power, |
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news-graphics-2006-_633431a[1].jpg >>1563 |
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Another tip. Don't rely on hunting. Any animal with a pulse will be killed and eaten in no time and their populations devestated. This is standard in such times and the populations have got much higher since last time people were desperate enough. |
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>>1555 |
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KillTheBoereKillTheFarmerANCSlogan2009.jpg >>1566 |
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ae1e2574_81b5_e648.jpg One of the problems with long-pig, aside from the psychological effects, is that it is the worst for spreading disease. Unlike with other animals or plants the diseases are all specialised at attacking humans. There are diseases - including some that attack the brain - that can be passed on through this. You will be consuming a lifetime of accumulated disease. |
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>>1569 |
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oil.png I'm pretty excited for this, actually. |
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Basically I think that if the world changes so that I am forced to farm for myself, to basically live to survive, to live in fear of hordes of lesser prepared, hungry, angry people, I'd much rather not bother. That's probably pretty bad, but fuck it. I'll stock up enough food for maybe half a year, and if there isn't some sort of government back by then I'll just top myself. |
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We should have been building new nuclear, coal, gas, hydro and other alternatives years and years ago to modernise and supply us for the future. Instead we've got an aging system and plants that are running over their age limit (wasting fuel, giving less energy and with more risks). |
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If you store fuel, especially heating oil, then buy it now. Not for some long term apocalypse, but because it should be clear by now that it won't be going down the unrest in the Middle East and threats to supply. If we get a patch of bad weather this will be used to crank the prices up. Get it while it is cheap and you'll save yourself a few quid down the road. |
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akira-kaneda-being-badass.jpg OP here, |
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>>1656 |
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e.coli-ed01.jpg Researchers at UCLA's Henry Samueli School of Engineering and Applied Science have developed a way to produce normal butanol — often proposed as a "greener" fuel alternative to diesel and gasoline -- from bacteria at rates significantly higher than those achieved using current production methods. |
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http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-06/environmental-visionaries-carbon-slayer |
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>>1665 I agree. It's probably the best idea man ever had. However, it just seems too good to be possible. Having said that, it's time we had a break. |
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>>1663 |
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collapse.jpg Ok I've been convinced that I need to grow some stuff to live on. I have very little soil and not much sun. What's my best options? |
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I find it hard to imagine how pathetic, weak of character, lazy and shallow someone would have to be to wish to be dead instead of having any hardship. What a terrible human being. |
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>>1687 |
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Indoor planters + LED grow lights. |
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I realised I am coming far too hostile about this for my tastes and you're only advising caution for the other lad's benefit anyway. I really don't want to go down that path, especially on /eco/. They can read up on these things more if it really interests them, etc. Especially now they've been given some key terms and ideas. |
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