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>> No. 1980 Anonymous
7th April 2012
Saturday 12:28 am
1980 Grow yer own
Anyone growing veg this year

Planted around 30 potato's during the warm spell recently in a variety of bags and scrounged containers and the ones which have broke ground seem to be shrugging off the cold weather OK.
Found 3 packets of 2 year out of date cabage seeds and planted the lot in trays, somewhat unexpectedly the majority have sprouted.
The celeriac seeds have sprouted, bought a packet of 120 green beans for 87p (from a pound shop, whats all that about) and they are starting to come through. Radish's are going great guns although the cold spell might mean they bolt, the rabbits will enjoy them if that happens.
Nothing doing with the egg plant seeds on the window sill
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>> No. 1981 Anonymous
8th April 2012
Sunday 1:10 pm
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Nice looking spud bags. About to sort my garden out today, but I don't think I'll get many veggies in, just flowers this year for me.
>> No. 1982 Anonymous
8th April 2012
Sunday 2:26 pm
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>>1981

stock photo pinched from the net I'm afraid, I do have spud bags just like that but the potatoes are no where near that far along

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>> No. 1947 Anonymous
2nd January 2012
Monday 5:02 pm
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I have an outside patio which is very sunny in summer, having no shade. I'm going to build a simple pergola out of bamboo rods and want something to grow up it. The obvious would be grapes, but I want something that'll grow as quickly as possible that isn't Ivy. Another option I though about was roses.

I live in the south east with a damp maritime climate, the area has unrestricted sunlight for most of the day and the first face to be planted will be south facing.

What options are there and what would be quickest?
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>> No. 1948 Anonymous
2nd January 2012
Monday 9:43 pm
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A climbing rose might work, but a normal type of rose grows a bit slowly I would think.

I would cover it in some type of peas or beans - they climb brilliantly and you will have a nice crop to boot. If you don't like the way it ends up, it will all die off at the end of the season.
>> No. 1949 Anonymous
5th January 2012
Thursday 4:15 pm
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>>1947
As the poster above mentioned, roses tend to grow relatively slowly so they aren't the quickest but the end result is spectacular. It will require training around twice a year or so, though, since they have a habit of bushing out. If you left it for a few years for whatever reason, you'd likely return to a vaguely pergola shaped rose thicket.

Also be sure that your construction is very sturdy if you go for roses as the finished plant will be quite heavy, much heavier than grapes. Peas and beans are best if you want quick results and apart from giving you a crop to harvest, their flowers are quite charming to boot. The only downside is that you have to clear their straw out of your structure at the end of the year. They, too, require some training though as they send out seeking tendrils looking for other things to grab on to, but they adjust and grab on to whatever you wind them around very quickly.
>> No. 1951 Anonymous
8th January 2012
Sunday 1:08 am
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Old man's beard? It's not the very most beautiful, but it'll grow like very little else.
>> No. 1952 Anonymous
11th January 2012
Wednesday 11:44 am
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Plant some actual bamboo as well, it will look nice with the pergola, grows fast and is the final boss of survival plants, almost worthy of an IT'Z thread.
>> No. 1979 Anonymous
29th March 2012
Thursday 12:23 pm
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Grave vines. They add a beautiful shade alongside the advantage of having tonnes of grapes at your disposal after 5-10 years

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>> No. 1940 Anonymous
16th November 2011
Wednesday 11:36 pm
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Ever thought about taking a trip to South Korea? If so, plan it for July. That’s when the otherwise sleepy seaside town of Boryeong explodes to life in a squelching, face-caked orgy of oozing grey mud and partial nudity.

http://www.environmentalgraffiti.com/featured/mud-festival-boryeong/19936

I decided that /eco/ deserves this more than any other board.
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>> No. 1941 Anonymous
20th November 2011
Sunday 12:20 pm
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>>1940 I've been to this.
>> No. 1942 Anonymous
22nd November 2011
Tuesday 12:13 pm
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>>1941
Would you mind telling us more?
>> No. 1943 Anonymous
24th November 2011
Thursday 2:00 pm
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>>1942 It was basically a load of English teachers getting pissed and rolling around in the mud. Koreans often don't know about it. It was a local festival that got taken over by the 18-30 crowd. I just spent most of my time swimming.
>> No. 1944 Anonymous
1st December 2011
Thursday 12:40 am
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>>1940

>If so, plan it for July. That’s when the otherwise sleepy seaside town of Boryeong explodes to life in a squelching, face-caked orgy of oozing grey mud and partial nudity.

>a load of English teachers getting pissed and rolling around in the mud

Sounds like I should plan for anything but July. That sounds embarrassing. I'm happy the Koreans don't know about it.
>> No. 1946 Anonymous
9th December 2011
Friday 10:53 pm
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>> No. 1938 Anonymous
15th November 2011
Tuesday 11:16 am
1938 Mogolian Ice
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/nov/15/mongolia-ice-shield-geoengineering

Feel free to repost in /g/.

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>> No. 1937 Anonymous
14th November 2011
Monday 10:03 pm
1937 Constraint
I used to live on the welsh/english border (lowercase, because it really does not matter that much), but back there I spent many a night in a hammock just out and about just to relax. Every now and then I just needed a few days away from everyone and everything.

Work took me to London, recently. It's mostly fine (the city is filthy, but hey) and there are some green spots that may just serve as reserves to relax in. One can just about pitch up a camp and feel solace.

I'm curious, though, if nature calls for you, if you just need that night under the stars, that time away from it all, where do you go? And can you still find it near you?
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15th November 2011
Tuesday 11:28 am
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>>1937

There's a very large swamp preserve about 100 miles from me, where my grandfather used to have a house. It's isolated and nearly unpopulated, and looks about the same as it did a thousand years ago. There are animals and things that you can't see anywhere else. With the proper skills you can 'live off the land' and basically do anything you want.

Sage for foreign haram-ness

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>> No. 1911 Anonymous
1st October 2011
Saturday 4:05 pm
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Can you please help me identify this plant? I bought it from M&S around Christmas.

I think (but not at all sure) that it was called British White something.
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>> No. 1931 Anonymous
1st November 2011
Tuesday 6:00 pm
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>>1930

I'll put you in a bucket, m8.
>> No. 1932 Anonymous
3rd November 2011
Thursday 8:59 pm
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>>1931
whoosh
>> No. 1933 Anonymous
6th November 2011
Sunday 7:59 pm
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Oh, but this is not just a hyacinth.

This is a specially grown, ecologically watered, hand-plucked British white hyacinth.
>> No. 1934 Anonymous
7th November 2011
Monday 5:42 pm
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Simon and M&S in my /eco? Best day of my life!

Actually it's been a while since we had a post pics of our garden/compost heap thread.
>> No. 1935 Anonymous
10th November 2011
Thursday 12:34 pm
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>>1930
Lady of the house speaking?

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>> No. 1920 Anonymous
4th October 2011
Tuesday 12:18 am
1920 Please?
Dear /eco

I was wondering if I could ask for your collective help in voting for this project to get funding from Natwest. It's a community allotment project near Brighton and they grow some interesting things such as odd looking cucumbers and outlawed vegetables ( http://www.seedybusiness.org/about.shtml )

If you wouldn't mind clicking the link here: http://communityforce.natwest.com/project/2958 and bunging them a vote it would be much a appreciated. (You get 3 votes but can only vote for a project once so you can also vote for something perhaps more local to you as well)

I'm not part of this community but ate some pumpkin soup there when on holiday and it was very good indeed. They do grow some very strage looking things and encourage a very /eco way of thinking.

I apologise for my shameless promoting but I assure you that I have nothing to gain from this, other than helping to repay a debt of kindness for my soup (it was freely given)

Thanks all
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>> No. 1926 Anonymous
10th October 2011
Monday 10:52 am
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>>1920

This is lovely. It gets my vote.
>> No. 1927 Anonymous
10th October 2011
Monday 1:16 pm
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Nepal ballot posted.
>> No. 1929 Anonymous
11th October 2011
Tuesday 9:29 pm
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Vote posted. Make sure to get the kids involved like it says there. It's important (secure our future!).

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>> No. 1885 Anonymous
18th September 2011
Sunday 11:10 am
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A wind farm has been paid £1.2 million not to produce electricity for eight-and-a-half hours. The National Grid asked the company, Fred Olsen Renewables, to shut down its Crystal Rig II wind farm last Saturday for a little over eight hours amid fears the electricity network would become overloaded.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/windpower/8770937/Wind-farm-paid-1.2-million-to-produce-no-electricity.html

This boils my piss.
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>> No. 1921 Anonymous
4th October 2011
Tuesday 12:23 am
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Only one man can save us - sage for not really adding much other than a borrowed touch of humour
>> No. 1922 Anonymous
4th October 2011
Tuesday 1:39 am
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Wind turbines are fashionable. They spring up to subsidise the swimming pools and the mansions of the rich, while the rest of the little villagers have to look on in disgust.

Community wind would be acceptable. As it is, the incentives are piled on to one individual who pollutes the land with these ridiculous ego projects. They wreck lives, ruin businesses (especially in the tourism industry) and serve nobody but the manufacturer, agent, and owner.
>> No. 1923 Anonymous
5th October 2011
Wednesday 1:43 pm
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If the revivied abiotic oil theory works out then we could end up with a renewable resource with vast quantitites. The soviets seem to have been on to something.
>> No. 1924 Anonymous
5th October 2011
Wednesday 9:01 pm
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>>1918

Yeah sorry, I meant Fusion not Fission.
>> No. 1928 Anonymous
10th October 2011
Monday 3:35 pm
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One day, lad. One day.

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>> No. 1851 Anonymous
4th August 2011
Thursday 12:11 pm
1851 The philosophy of survival
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/aug/04/what-it-will-take-to-survive

Apart from the obvious Bear baiting, the article made me rage as it's exactly the excessive focus on mechanical or technical aspects of survival, in ALL theatres, which will be the downfall of most people.

Positive mental attitude and resilience are worth ten times the know how on it's own. All the survival instructors I met in the Army were ALWAYS going on about this on personal and team levels.

Sorry for the caps and general tone.
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>> No. 1872 Anonymous
12th September 2011
Monday 3:10 am
1872 How To Be a Survivor by Robert Heinlein
The Art of Staying Alive in the Atomic Age (Part 3)

The tactical preparations for survival after the debacle fall mainly into three groups. First is the overhaul of your own bodily assets, which includes everything from joining the YMCA, to get rid of that paunch and increase your wind and endurance, to such things as getting typhoid and cholera shots, having that appendix out, and keeping your teeth in the best shape possible. If you wear glasses, you will need several pairs against the day when there will be no opticians in practice. Second is the acquisition of various materials and tools which you will be unable to make or grow in a sudden, synthetic stone age- items such as a pickax or a burning glass, for example, will be wdrth considerably more than two college degrees or a diamond bracelet. Third is training in various fundamental pioneer skills, not only how to snare and cook rabbits, but such things as where and when to plant potatoes, how to tell edible fungi from deadly toadstools without trying them on Junior, and how to walk silently. All these things are necessary, but more important, much more important, is the acquiring of a survival point of view, the spiritual orientation which will enable you to face hardship, danger, cold, and hunger without losing your zest and courage and sense of humor. If you think it is going to be too hard to be worthwhile, if you can't face the prospect of coming back to the ruins of your cabin, burned down by drunken looters, other than with the quiet determination to build another, then don't bother to start. Move to a target area and wait for the end. It does not take any special courage or skill to accept the death that moves like lightning. You won't even have ttie long walk the steers have to make to get from the stockyard pens to the slaughter-house.

But if your ancestors still move in your bones, you will know that it is worthwhile, just as they did. "The cowards never started and the weaklings died on the way." That was the spirit that crossed the plains, and such was the spirit of every emigrant who left Europe. There is good blood in your veins, compadre!

It is not possible to tell exactly what to do to prepare yourself best to survive, even if this were a book instead of a short article, for the details must depend on the nature of the countryside you must rely on, your opportunities for planning and preparing, the numbers, ages and sex of your dependents if any, your present skills, talents, and physical condition, and whether or not you are at present dispersed from target areas or must plan for such dispersal. But the principles under which you can make your plans and the easiest means by which to determine them can be indicated.

Start out by borrowing your son's copy of the Boy Scout Manual. It is a practical book of the sort of lore you will need. If you can't borrow it because he is not a member of the Scouts, send him down at once and make him join up. Then make him study. Get him busy on those merit badges-woodcraft, cooking, archery, carpentry. Somebody is going to have to make that fire without matches, if that rabbit is ever to be cooked and eaten. See to it that he learns how, from experts. Then make him teach you.

Can you fell a tree? Can you trim a stone? Do you know where to dig a cesspool? Where and how to dig a well? Can you pull a tooth? Can you shoot a rifle accurately and economically? Can you spot tularemia (we are back to that ubiquitous rabbit again!) in cleaning a rabbit? Do you know the rudiments of farming? Given simple tools, could you build a log, or adobe, or rammed-earth, or native-stone cabin from materials at hand and have it be weather-tight, varmint-proof, and reasonably comfortable?

You can't learn all the basic manual trades in your spare time in a limited number of years but you can acquire a jackleg but adequate knowledge of the more important ones, in the time we have left.

But how much time have we?
>> No. 1873 Anonymous
12th September 2011
Monday 3:10 am
1873 How To Be a Survivor by Robert Heinlein
The Art of Staying Alive in the Atomic Age (Part 4)

All we can do is estimate. How long will it be before other nations have the atomic bomb? Nobody knows- one estimate from the men who made it was "two to five years." Dr. Vannevar Bush spoke of "five to fifteen years" while another expert, equally distinguished, mentioned "five or ten years." Major General Leslie Groves, the atom general, thinks it will be a long time.

Let us settle on five years as a reasonable minimum working time. Of course, even if another nation, unfriendly to us, solved the production problems of atomic weapons in that length of time, there still might not be a war for a number of years, nor would there necessarily ever be one. However, since we don't know what world conditions will be like in five years, let's play it safe; let's try to be ready for it by 1950.

Four or five years is none too long to turn a specialized, soft, city dweller into a generalized, hardened pioneer. However, it is likely that you will find that you are enjoying it. It will be an interesting business and there is a deep satisfaction in learning how to do things with your own hands.

First get that Scout Manual. Look over that list of merit badges. Try to figure out what skills you are likely to need, what ones you now have, and what ones you need to study up on. The Manual will lead you in time to other books. Ernest Thompson Seton's Two Little Savages is full of ideas and suggestions.

Presently you will find that there are handbooks of various trades you have not time to master; books which contain information you could look up in an emergency if you have had the forethought to buy the book and hide it away in your out-of-tpwn base. There are books which show how to build fireplaces, giving the exact dimensions of reflector, throat, ledge, and flue. You may not remember such details; being able to look them up may save you from a winter in a smoke-filled cabin. If there is any greater domestic curse than a smoking fireplace, I can't recall it, unless it be the common cold.

There are little handbooks which show, in colored pictures, the edible mushrooms and their inedible cousins. It is possible to live quite well on practically nothing but fungi, with comparatively little work; they exist in such abundance and variety.

You will need a medical reference book, selected with the advice of a wise and imaginative medical man. Tell him why you want it. Besides that, the best first-aid and nursing instrvction you can get will not be too much. Before you are through with this subject you will find yourself selecting drugs, equipment, and supplies to be stored against the darkness, in your base as well as a lesser supply to go into the survival kit you keep in your automobile.
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>> No. 1874 Anonymous
12th September 2011
Monday 3:11 am
1874 How To Be a Survivor by Robert Heinlein
The Art of Staying Alive in the Atomic Age (Part 5)

That brings us to another subject and the most interesting of all. We have not talked much about the enemy, have we? And yet he was there, from the start. It was his atom bombs which reduced you to living off the country and performing your own amputations and accouchements. If you have laid your plans carefully, you won't see much of him for quite a while; this is a very, very big country. Where you are hidden out there never were very many people~at any time; the chances of occupation forces combing all of the valleys, canyons, and hills of our back country in less than several years is negligible. It is entirely conceivable that an enemy could conquer or destroy our country, as a state, in twenty minutes, with atom bomb and rocket. Yet, when his occupation forces move in, they will be almost lost in this great continent. He may not find you for years.

There is your chance. It has been proved time and again, by the Fighting French, the recalcitrant Irish, the deathless Poles, yes and by our own Apache and Yaqui Indians, that you cannot conquer a free man; you can only kill him. After the immediate problems of the belly, comes the Underground!

You'll need your rifle. You will need knives. You will need dynamite and fuses. You will need to know how to turn them into grenades. You must learn how to harry the enemy in the dark, how to turn his conquest into a mockery, too expensive to exploit. Oh, it can be done, it can be done! Once he occupies, his temporary advantage of the surprise attack with the atom bomb is over, for once his troops are scattered among you, he cannot use the atom bomb. [But read Spirit of Dorsai for another viewpoint.]

Then is your day. Then is the time for the neighborhood cell, the mountain hideout, the blow in the night. Yes, and then is the time for the martyr to freedom, the men and women who die painfully, with sealed lips.

Can we then win our freedom back? There is no way of telling. History has some strange quirks. It was a conflict between England and France that gave us our freedom in the first place. A quarrel in enemy high places, a young hopeful feeling his oats and anxious to displace the original dictator, might give us unexpected opportunity, opportunity we could exploit if we were ready.

There are ways to study for that day, too. There are books, many of them, which you may read to learn how other people have done it. One such book is Tom Wintringham's New Ways of War. It is almost a blueprint of what to do to make an invader wish he had stayed at home. It is available in a 25 cent PenguinInfantry Journal edition. You can study up and become quite deadly, even though 4-F, or fifty.

If you plan for it, you can survive. If you study and plan and are ready to organize when the time comes, you can hope not only to survive but to play a part in winning back lost freedoms. General George Washington once quoted Scripture to describe what we were fighting for then-a time when "everyone shall sit in safety under his own vine and figtree, and none shall make him afraid!"
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>> No. 1894 Anonymous
19th September 2011
Monday 9:42 pm
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>>1873

>However, since we don't know what world conditions will be like in five years, let's play it safe; let's try to be ready for it by 1950.

Well, I bet he felt foolish.
>> No. 1895 Anonymous
19th September 2011
Monday 10:18 pm
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>there still might not be a war for a number of years, nor would there necessarily ever be one

Selective quoting can be fun, but is rather naughty. Now it sounds very different with that as part of the context.

>Well, I bet he felt foolish.

I very much doubt it. I had a cast iron certainty that someone would zoom in on that one part and likely be unfair and take it out of context. The Korean war or any of the other hot spots thankfully didn't escalate, but there were many close calls during the long Cold War period and its hotter proxy wars.

I doubt he felt anything but relief and happy that he had more time to enjoy and use. Nothing went against his philosophy and he stated himself that it wasn't a certainty how far things would go. Nothing at all to feel foolish about. This is a million miles away from the preachers who give an absolute date of a few years down the road for god to do something that their own bible says won't happen and then lie about it afterwards when nothing happens.

A lot of what he is saying applies very well to survival in general or building and rebuilding societies and defending it. It's a good overview of the subjects.

One part I thought was interesting was this:
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>> No. 1815 Anonymous
29th June 2011
Wednesday 11:13 pm
1815 Mycology.
May this place be for us to post our fungi finds this year? As much as I like eating these wonderful things, this thread may very well feature poisonous species.
The rain we've been having recently has brought up some early risers.
I myself, have already found species of Bolete and Amanita.
Pic is the amanita rubescens found today.

To make this thread worthwhile, Let's all do a rain dance
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>> No. 1880 Anonymous
14th September 2011
Wednesday 1:35 pm
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Went out yesterday and found loads of Boletus edulus(Cep), Hydnum repandum(Hedgehogs) and Craterellus tubaeformis(trumpet Chanterelles. I didn't take any pictures so you will have to take my word for it. I Had the Chanterelles in an omelette for breakfast and will probably make some sort of pasta dish with the Ceps and Hedgehogs.
>> No. 1881 Anonymous
14th September 2011
Wednesday 2:50 pm
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>>1880 not having any luck down my way, we need some real rain in the south.

Do you only pick Ceps or other varieties of Beletes too? I found loads of these huge brown ones (see one of the blurry pics above) but they wearnt very good (tbh I was so nervous about eating them it would have been impossible to enjoy them)
>> No. 1882 Anonymous
14th September 2011
Wednesday 9:50 pm
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I'm in the south. Things are much better then they were this time last year, mushrooms everywhere.
Can't be sure what you have from your pic but i'd take a gamble on leccinum scabrum or Xerocomus badius, which are everywhere at the moment and are both edible but, frankly, not all that.
You should never eat a mushroom if you cannot ID it 100%, therein lies madness (and death. This cannot be understated) But having said that, it's not hard to ID mushrooms positively with a little research from one or two field guides. Don't trust google for ID.
If you post pics here I will happily ID them for you, If I can.
>> No. 1883 Anonymous
15th September 2011
Thursday 5:57 am
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>>1882 very kind of you to offer. I am sure I shall take you up on it at some point
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16th September 2011
Friday 11:57 pm
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>> No. 1330 Anonymous
7th September 2010
Tuesday 3:45 pm
1330 Food/water/perishables storage and emergency supplies
This thread shall be a place for me and others to add information on food, water and general perishables storage and building emergency supplies (as mentioned here >>1284 >>1285). This is the introductory post so I stop putting this off out of laziness and start writing (and so others can too) and cover what I think should be included and will try to add over time.

There are some quite good resources on the internet. Links (with a paragraph at least to explain what it is would be useful and expected) to good information can be collected here. I find that this area tends to be dominated by America, both in information and in vendors. It's often hard to find all you need in the UK - be it brands, materials, weights and measures or tools or suitable or available vendors. These kinds of hoops have wasted much of my time, but hopefully with the shared knowledge we can save each other some time and effort in reinventing or rediscovering what has been done before.

As suggested by someone previously, try to avoid going into /boo/ territory or clashing with any ideals or politics. Practical tips and answers to problems, please. Anything that fits within the subject is fine (so storage life or tips on Vitamin C or even saving old diesel in storage from going to waste is also okay). Techniques, URLs, experiences, even tips on buying. Much of the difficulties I've found is simply sourcing the material (this being much more difficult in the UK than the USA - with some areas in the UK being more troublesome than others) and getting it delivered for reasonable prices. As such I'd welcome price comparisons, shopping suggestions and heads up on any good bargains related to this area (even if they are only short term supermarket offers we can rush out and take advantage of).

This can be an adventure we take part in together, enjoying each other's mistakes and victories.
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>> No. 1848 Anonymous
3rd August 2011
Wednesday 3:44 am
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Where did you see the comments about it? Please link to the comments.
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3rd August 2011
Wednesday 3:54 am
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>>1848

http://beforeitsnews.com/story/533/738/11_Emergency_Food_Items_That_Can_Last_a_Lifetime.html
>> No. 1866 Anonymous
7th September 2011
Wednesday 11:10 pm
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European Freeze Dry have updated their site. It's gone over to Mountain House branding heavily. On the upside the tins are shipped from the UK. I think they are also all being made in the UK for our market, judging from the latest tins I've seen. Faster shipping times, cheaper prices and less risk to the goods in transit. Win-win for the UK buyers.

They still do some of their own plain pouches though for fruit, chicken and a smaller tin for prawns if you want to try them first instead of buying the large Mountain House ones.

The berry fruit is very good. Better tasting and quality than most dried fruit in cereal mixes. Very strong flavour. When dry it's like the strongest jam or drinking fruit drink concentrate neat. You tend to expect these things to be bland, but these are far from it. Almost too strong in the dry state for nibbling on its own although you could enjoy them that way. Adding them to cereal or ice cream while dry works great. You can also reconstitute them and use as normal.

I think the apples might be more suited to nibbling on its own. Strawberries weren't too strong either. The rasberries were powerful, almost eye-watering. Delicious.

Free shipping for orders over £24 in the UK. Not a big order as many of the tins are well over that amount.
>> No. 1868 Anonymous
9th September 2011
Friday 10:19 pm
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Checked the dates on the tins and they are being honest with the shipping and production times. I've heard some people complain about getting very old stock pouches and tins that have already had years off their shelf life from some supplies. Quite likely this could be because they are manufacturing them themselves instead of having to buy them in through the chan and store them. A big plus if you want the maximum shelf life you can get.
>> No. 1878 Anonymous
13th September 2011
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A tip for rehydrating freeze dried food. You can add water as normal or you can add flavouring into the water you use. A stock cube mixed into it can almost instantly marinade the meat. Similarly you can try other flavourings, spices, etc. for savoury or sweet items.

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>> No. 1839 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 4:06 pm
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Went to Tesco's this weekend, all well and good but not exactly eco you may say
The branch local to me has dozens of blueberry bush's growing around the site and within half an hour I had filled 2 carrier bags full which have been processed into demi-johns, with the appropriate amount of sugar and yeast
Considering Tesco sell blueberry's for a pound a punnet I just grabbed around 20/30 quids worth of fruit
Any other tales of urban foraging?
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>> No. 1840 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 4:31 pm
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>>1839
On the cycle track near me there are loads of blackberry bushes along the side, it is very easy just to stop and get a decent snack from them.
I found that someone made a map of a load of the places which have edible plants in the city, but I can not seem to find it now.

Along with that had some nice elderflower cordial recently.

You can also encourage plants that can be foraged by planting wild berries and the like around, they can spread quite well as birds and animals eat them, then they get dispersed.
They also look very nice.
>> No. 1841 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 4:59 pm
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I'm fairly well served by my local area for fruits. Just around the corner is a large house converted into offices, I have permission to collect damsons from the 4 large bushes in the car park
A 20 minute walk takes me to the grounds of an abandoned orchard
Next door but one neighbor has 2 fruiting cherry tree's
Blackberry's and rose hips are absolutely everywhere
It does help I live a 10 minute walk from open countryside.
And what do I do with natures healthy bounty - process it into an unhealthy quantity of wine hic

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>> No. 1837 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 10:36 am
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2006/jan/17/g2.ruralaffairs

Can we stop this?
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>> No. 1838 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 1:47 pm
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>>1837

We can airdrop gold rings across the country. We all know that gives them an extra life.

So are they dying out in all of Britain or just England alone?

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>> No. 1187 Anonymous
26th July 2010
Monday 10:07 pm
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I wondered whether any eco types are into this outdoor swimming lark. Having just got back from a drizzly few days in the Lake District I can tell you it is a thoroughly splendid thing to do.

The pic is me, at about six pm this evening, in Buttermere.
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>> No. 1686 Anonymous
20th April 2011
Wednesday 4:56 pm
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Oh I know what you mean, but it is much better nowadays. The water was very clean indeed - if a little brisk!
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25th May 2011
Wednesday 8:00 pm
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>> No. 1810 Anonymous
29th June 2011
Wednesday 9:20 pm
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I appreciate the care taken to add that little hump bit.
>> No. 1836 Anonymous
26th July 2011
Tuesday 10:30 am
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Saturday was a good day. This is our lass in Esthwaite, watched by our hydrophobic dog.

We saw no Nessie, but she did get stared at by a fish later on in Loughrigg tarn. Very unsettling I can tell you.
>> No. 1859 Anonymous
4th September 2011
Sunday 10:25 pm
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>>1836

Had a go out in Gaddings Dam today. It is a fine place and is kept up entirely by volunteers (who amongst them raised the money to buy the place I believe).

If anyone cares I'll put up a picture. [x] Rage for swim blog.

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