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|>>|| No. 4521
I believe him.
I expect the reputation management crew to be here any minute.
|>>|| No. 4522
18 minutes long? Fucks sake, someone condense this for me
|>>|| No. 4523
I thought that too. The first few minutes are just audio, if you want the gist skip till the talking head bit pops up then give it five minutes and you'll be up to speed.
|>>|| No. 4524
He is incoherent and is assuming we know or care about whatever the backstory is behind his complaints already. I know who Bill Maloney is, a child abuse obsessed filmmaker who seems to have backed the wrong horse a few times now. I don't know what Mr Harvey is trying to say here but it seems clear he has spent too much time trawling weird online shit and doesn't like the coppers much. Please OP, a summary.
|>>|| No. 4525
I assume it is related to this which is a bit more coherant
It seems to be he feels he was phone hacked, has proof of it, and no one seems to care.
There also seems to be some element about setting him up in ways to discredit him.
|>>|| No. 4527
>It seems to be he feels he was phone hacked, has proof of it, and no one seems to care.
>There also seems to be some element about setting him up in ways to discredit him.
Also he goes on about child abuse by music industry figures in a lot of his videos and mentions Tom Watkins quite a lot...
|>>|| No. 4539
Well he's proved he's not on drugs, as that's what some online commentators have said.
I guess they'll just stick with crazy now.
|>>|| No. 4540
Remember that we're talking about a man who somehow managed to run himself over with a car from the driving seat.
|>>|| No. 4541
Can you honestly tell me you don't think Tom Watkins is a masonic pedo?
|>>|| No. 4545
I hadn't had cause to think about Tom Watkins for years but since it turned out B2K and NSYNC were getting molested, it seems pretty obvious.
|>>|| No. 4546
He's making Danniella Westbrook look like the sensible one.
|>>|| No. 4558
All of it, because there's no evidence. That's how the burden of proof works.
|>>|| No. 4571
That's what I find a bit strange about historical sex crimes going to court, when the only people in the world who know what happened are the two people who were in that room.
|>>|| No. 4572
>All of it, because there's no evidence. That's how the burden of proof works.
Nice avoiding of the question, masonlad.
|>>|| No. 4583
He didn't avoid the question. To wit, he not only answered the question, but explained his rationale too.
|>>|| No. 4584
I asked him to pick something specific. He said "all of it". That's about as unspecific as it gets.
|>>|| No. 4585
I believe they are asking for you to provide evidence for any of it.
Brian Harvey's delivery is hysterical in the non comedic sense. It makes it feel like it is more trouble than it is worth to decipher why he believes what he believes, and that he lacks mental capacity.
|>>|| No. 4586
If he doesn't believe any of what he's saying, then that's the most accurate response possible. Why cherry pick statements when you think the entire thing is bollocks?
|>>|| No. 4589
Came here to post this, very glad to see someone beat me to it.
|>>|| No. 4590
"I'm really confused, man." - Brian Harvey
Seriously, I feel sorry for the bloke. He's clearly not in a good place mentally and he's got caught up in an internet shit pit that's just making everything worse. He's stuck in a cycle of paranoia -> feeding the trolls -> getting trolled -> paranoia and he has no obvious route out. The whole situation is just very sad.
|>>|| No. 4591
I wouldn't hesitate to believe Tom Watkins molested bands. I mean look at him. Doesn't the narrator strongly imply it at 3:34 here?
|>>|| No. 4592
I keep wanting to call him Tom Watson though and thinking
>Tut tut. Tom Watson shouldn't have molested East 17.
|>>|| No. 4593
Speaking of which, why is "Stay Another Day" a Christmas song? The lyrics don't mention anything about Christmas at all.
|>>|| No. 4595
It was Christmas #1, has "Christmas bells" at the end and snow is falling in the video.
|>>|| No. 4598
Snow wasn't falling in the first version of the video and Eminem's Stan was Christmas number one too.
|>>|| No. 4600
Not seriously enough to avoid posting a completely contradictory article that mixes up the survey answers and the percentages they received.
|>>|| No. 4601
You must have not watched the videos. It's not paranoia when the cops come round and tell you your life is in danger.
|>>|| No. 4602
The assumption is this is someone who has seen his youtube videos and is messing about. How else would the coppers know about a death thread before him? If you genuinely intend to threaten someone you typically contact the victim.
|>>|| No. 4603
What, so they can take steps to avoid you killing them? That seems ill-advised.
|>>|| No. 4604
Wasting police time seems like a risky method of trolling. Would they have done a CrimeStoppers anonymous tip or something?
My other thought was what if Brian, or one of his friends, called the police so he could make that video and get more credibility, but he's an Oscar-worthy actor if so.
|>>|| No. 4605
It's a big jump "someone, somewhere has made a death threat against me" to "Rupert Murdoch is trying to kill me". Osman warnings are issued to all sorts of people for all sorts of reasons, but they're mostly in relation to stalking and drug gangs. The Met issue hundreds of such warnings every year. They're essentially an arse-covering measure, used when the police have some information that a threat has been made, but lack sufficient evidence to arrest or charge anyone.
I'm not much of a Bayesian, but what do you reckon the odds are of "a massive conspiracy to silence someone that has somehow completely failed to silence them" versus "a nutter on the internet has made a death threat against someone who used to be in a boy band"? How are those probabilities affected by the prior knowledge that the former boy band member in question spends a large proportion of their time talking to nutters on the internet?
|>>|| No. 4606
Less ill-advised than telling the police to tell the victim. Aren't death threats normally more about intimidation?
|>>|| No. 4607
He said he's on benefits for mental health issues on his newest video at 2:53.
|>>|| No. 4608
>Wasting police time seems like a risky method of trolling.
It's also an extremely popular method, as evidenced by the epidemic of swatting. If you stream on Twitch, having your house raided by armed police is practically a rite of passage.
If you have tens or hundreds of thousands of followers online, it's a near-certainty that some proportion of those followers are seriously mentally ill in a way that poses a danger to others. If your followers are disproportionately likely to hold eccentric or paranoid beliefs, those odds drastically increase.
Most public figures take certain steps to protect themselves. The world contains a surprisingly large number of people who think that the CIA is sending them secret messages via the football results, or that Emily Maitlis is being held hostage by the BBC and is asking to be rescued by blinking messages in morse code. The accessibility of social media erodes many of the barriers used by public figures to insulate themselves from the more disturbed and dangerous elements of the general public.
|>>|| No. 4609
Normally the problem is other people finding out and telling the police.
|>>|| No. 4610
I notice those coppers who showed up to tell him about the death threats never displayed their officer numbers.
|>>|| No. 4611
The one of the left definitely did and had his rank and surname embroidered on his chest.
|>>|| No. 4612
You can see Beardy's numbers there on his shoulder in literally the first two seconds of the video, and throughout the rest - you can't make them out though on camera because he's been made to stand two meters back behind a bin.
|>>|| No. 4613
What are you on about you mental. They were never asked to display their numbers.
|>>|| No. 4614
Anyone else find it funny that when the coppers came round to tell him of the death threat they also warned him he was not allowed to defend himself and would be dealt with "according with the law" if he even attempted to?
I suppose that's what they do for all of these kinds of things but it still seems funny. And not funny haha.
|>>|| No. 4615
They didn't do that. They explained at length that he has the legal right to defend himself. They said that he didn't have the right to do anything that would be illegal anyway, e.g. walking about in the street with a sword.
|>>|| No. 4616
Are people posting in this thread without watching the video?
|>>|| No. 4617
It's amazing that you had the exact same reaction as Harvey did, yet even he managed to understand what they were saying once they clarified it for him.
Try harder, mate.
|>>|| No. 4619
Do we know exactly what he tweeted to be charged with malicious communications?
|>>|| No. 4622
That's actually a really good track. It's a shame it's about this conspiracy shite.
|>>|| No. 4623
I think he has spent too many late nights smoking dope and reading conspiracy sites.
|>>|| No. 4624
> I think he has spent too many late nights smoking dope and reading conspiracy sites.
|>>|| No. 4662
Would it be unethical to feed him .gs memes to see if he talks about them in videos?
At the very least we should get him in touch with ARE emily.
|>>|| No. 4663
How? His twitter's gone and he seems to completely ignore the chat on his live videos and his comments are disabled.
|>>|| No. 4668
I'm pretty convinced this is a performance art piece at this point.
|>>|| No. 4669
He listens to the discussion on his channel page.
People wartned him about not using the computers he got back from the coppers (I believe someone brought him up to speed on air gapped malware) and he has listened and is doing exactly that as his latest videos show.
|>>|| No. 4670
You sound like you really believe the coppers are out to get him?
It must be nice to believe the Met are competent enough to be part of any sort of conspiracy. In my experience they just handcuff you to a wheely bin and kick the fuck out of you.
|>>|| No. 4705
He;s gone all quiet on youtube and disabled all ways to comment there (even on his account page). I think the frighteners might finally have been beaten into him.
|>>|| No. 4708
He first went very quiet in the run up to his court case, which got thrown out. I seem to remember him saying his solicitor told him to shut up and thought maybe Brian continued seeing that as good advice thereafter.
|>>|| No. 4709
> In my experience they just handcuff you to a wheely bin and kick the fuck out of you.
Paddington Green mob?
|>>|| No. 4761
I can believe Tom Watkins raped a member of East 17 and that Brian got his phone hacked but I don't know how that relates to paedophiles, Ian Puddick, Bill Maloney etc. I wish he would do that dot-connecting video he promised.
|>>|| No. 4762
That's schizophrenia for you m8. Too many joins, not enough dots.
|>>|| No. 4764
I thought the problem might just be he's not very articulate and doesn't put all the information out in one place, but his reasoning at about 16 minutes here makes my head spin.
|>>|| No. 4766
Can someone give me a TL;DR, because I can't be arsed watching all these videos but I'm dead curious.
Is it just another ex-celecrity losing his marbles?
|>>|| No. 4767
I would if I could it is too incoherant to work out, something about himself believing he was a victim of the phone hacking scandal but no one doing anything about it mostly.
|>>|| No. 4768
*>Is it just another ex-celecrity losing his marbles?*
Pretty much, yeah. He has a history of serious mental illness going back to at least 2005, possibly related to his prodigious drug and alcohol use when he was at the height of his fame. Things seem to have come to a head over the last few years and he has been repeatedly hospitalised. It's all rather sad.
He thinks that there's some sort of conspiracy involving the music industry and the police, he keeps making malicious communications online which he keeps getting arrested for, so it just goes round and round in a cycle of paranoia and police involvement, stoked by an internet mob of conspiracy theorists.
|>>|| No. 4769
Stolen from http://goodf.forumotion.com/t1611-brian-harvey
>I was hoping he would put up a video laying out the complicated time line ,
>but here goes,
>He bought a case against the news of the World for the phone hacking thing.
>His solicitor, won his case but kept back some documents that Proved far worse than hacking,
>Phone TAPPING !!!!
>forward a few years, and he is helping Bill maloney ( Bill maloney -- truth for Money , part of the Truther Industrial Complex )
>interview Andrew Ash. Abuse Victim,
>He is the one that accused Edwina Curry, of inviting him to lick her curry pot.
>( My apologies )
>During the Interview , Andrew Ash was read out a List of names of people who had participated in these Corrupt parties, involving sex with those underage..
>BILL Baloney Added the name of Harveys EX Solicitor to the list ,
>Knowing that if Harvey Named him there was absolute Proof that he was in fact Innocent.
>Brian Harvey says the reason for them SETTING him UP is because of the Evidence he now has , that the solicitor held Back to protect the news of the World
>Phone Tapping, ( a much greater crime than Hacking someones voice mail aparently )
>and a CRIME on the Part of richard mallet the solicitor.
>Around the time that Harvey made the Videotaped interview of andrew ash , Ian Puddick , gave him the money to Buy a high quality Video recorder. ( a Ninja ) 500 QUID;
>Later Brian has found DIRECT links between Puddick and the people who Phone Tapped him origially.
>He claims they are
>ALL in it together.
>( wouldnt surprise me )
>As I said it's complicated. but Brian sounds like an honest guy to me.
|>>|| No. 4770
I'm not trawling through all of his videos to find it but he keeps waving around a screenshot of a tweet by Ian Puddick saying the police force used to be great and his dad was counter-terrorism. Brian thinks that discredits Ian's story he went to the papers about that he owned a plumbing company and his wife had an affair with someone very high-profile and then he got persecuted by counter-terrorism. He hasn't considered that Ian might be a lying attention whore.
He says counter-terrorism were also investigating the phone hacking thing as royals got hacked.
Last time he was in hospital voluntarily, he was allowed to come and go and he and family members were taking turns tending to his dogs. He came home and a dog had pissed and shit on the kitchen floor then was locked in its crate it couldn't have got locked in itself and all of his family members said they hadn't been there that day and he feels someone broke in his house to mess with him and only counter-terrorism has the power to do that. I didn't know the counter-terrorism job-description includes coercing dogs to piss and shit on kitchen floors.
He said he could see people watching him from across the road and has a screenshot from Zoopla saying the property was empty at the time so feels that was the authorities.
|>>|| No. 4772
I keep feeling like this might have some merit if only he would put all the information in one place, like on a blog or something.
|>>|| No. 4773
He's posted 11 videos today and is live-streaming again now.
|>>|| No. 4775
Brian Harvey made the news by posting a startling string of videos but if you're asking what he's claiming exactly, it's too convoluted to easily tell.
|>>|| No. 4776
Basically he has been stitched up like a kipper by the masons/paedolads in the entertainment industry.
He's tried to bring it to light, and has got shut the fuck down and labelled mad by anyone and everyone.
This, in its turn, is sending him genuinely mad.
|>>|| No. 4777
He ran himself over in his own car in 2005, supposedly because he had eaten too many baked potatoes. Harvey's psychological problems are not new.
|>>|| No. 4803
If he did, it would plainly be Rupert Murdoch in collusion with the police and YouTube causing his copyright strike. He made a diss song to his trolls using D12's Shit On You instrumental and it's completely disappeared now so I'd guess that was a copyright thing.
|>>|| No. 4806
Definitely a good use of one's time to make diss songs about a youtuber with 211 subscribers.
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