Does anyone here visit this loonytunes site, and does anyone have any opinions on it? Must have been well over five years ago when I found it but I can't seem to permanently stay away from this cesspit. My own memorable experiences:
1) The stuff about Blair's government being stuffed to the gills with paedophiles and blackmailed by Murdoch and the FBI, and the subsequent mysterious deletion of those lengthy threads.
2) Finding out Prince Harry was in Afghanistan months before the press announced it via an anonymous GLP post.
3) Being permanently mystified by esoteric conspiracy theory (or are they ARGs?) with stuff about 'the woman of scars' in seemingly coded language.
4) Being mildly freaked out by the conspiracy theories about GLP - that user avatars are full of spyware, that Stanford Research Institute uses the site as a data mining experiment, that you can't talk about the Tavistock Institute on there etc.
>>1981 No, but it seems obviously like an attention-grabbing publicity stunt. Pick an obscure conspiracy theory that no-one has got to the bottom of, and insinuate that you are part of that conspiracy.
One of my favourite stories about GLP is that the forum software, which simply appears to be an old-fashioned yet glitch-free kind of bulletin board, in fact contains sophisticated mind-altering trance-engendering military experimental frequencies.
>>1987 OK, you've asked for it. Here's some of my fifteen years' research into Tavistock which enables me to say that GLP's ban of the word is a publicity stunt. I first came across the Tavistock Institute in the Lyndon LaRouche chapter in Jonathan Vankin's Illuminet publication (can't remember its title) where LaRouche made the startling statement that the Grateful Dead were a project of Tavistock. I was even more surprised when this initially demented-sounding proposition was backed up by peculiar circumstantial evidence. Their publisher Alan Trist's father was Eric Trist, a very important Tavistock figure. Lyricist Robert Hunter was drug-tested by the CIA at Palo Alto as part of MK Ultra.
Not long after this, the almost certainly fictional character and LaRouche sockpuppet 'Dr John Coleman' appeared online with blackops texts talking a fair bit of nonsense about the Tavistock Institute - still being repeated around all the conspiraloon sites. LaRouche's rabid dislike of the British Establishment is well-known, what isn't well-known is the extent to which his front organisations have infiltrated so much of the world arena. The LaRouche organisation is clearly behind much of the content promulgated by that Iranian news company which was in trouble recently. I'm always surprised when people who talk about scientology's malign tentacles are ignorant of LaRouche's in many ways more effective and mysterious methods.
So much of the Tavistock Institute (and Clinic)'s work has been focussed on where the social sciences meet the occult. Thomas Pynchon's portrayal of Tavistock as 'The White Visitation' in Gravitys Rainbow is as honest a portrait as I can find. Seeking rational and linear explanations for everything they've had their finger in will lead you to insanity and cognitive overload. There are major synchronicity fields around Tavistock which will direct you to Chapel Perilous. The 7/7 bomb on the bus. The last bastion of Valerie Sinason and Satanic Ritual Abuse believers. R.D Laing's 'Knots'.
As for GLP, Trinity made lots of money from dodgy malware toolbars (as have plenty of other people) and decided to buy a conspiracy site. He bought it for a substantial sum from Elaine Belisha circa 2004/5 and he uses the Tavistock ban, as well as random mass IP bans and other stunts such as sudden shutdowns as an effective publicity tool. Fact is, you can actually discuss Tavistock there (search for a thread on Mannie Scher), just not say that word. Yes, Mr Lucas has advised the US government and military on website security, as have plenty of other successful webmasters. Zero Point Ltd is registered in the offshore tax haven of Jersey and makes a substantial amount of money, although having to deal with such a volume of nuts posting and threatening presidents etc can't be an easy job. One thing I will say is that I do think that government/military have tested intelligent bots frequently as anonymous posters on the site - look into the Genesys experiment run out of Hungary. GLP is a bit of fun and not a credible news site under any stretch of the imagination. Of course intelligence agencies will have taken an interest at times, but the Tavistock thing is a huge red herring.
>that Iranian news company which was in trouble recently.
Press TV. Their being shut down bothered my parents, which surprised me, because such blatant sock puppetry isn't something they'd be taken in by, but their point (which I had to concede) was that multiple different sock puppets are more interesting than just the typical Merdoch show.
>major synchronicity fields
This phrase makes you sound like a nutter.
>>1990 > This phrase makes you sound like a nutter.
I think he was using it as a metaphor.
Still, synchronicity as a concept is still a bit 'out there', even decades after it's introduction. I'm guessing, because it blows the traditional mind:matter separation out of the water and opens a very big can of worms that few people are ready to stomach.
>>1990 >major synchronicity fields
>This phrase makes you sound like a nutter
I dare, I fucking double-dare anyone to try and speak rationally about the Tavistock Institute and their hidden role in history over the last sixty years without sounding like a nutter and very probably actually becoming a nutter. >>1991 Thank you and yes, it's a can of worms. Reality is not what it's cracked up to be: mules rush in where angles seem to bend. >>1989 Because it was interesting.
It's just a fancy way of saying 'meaningful coincidence'. Even Uncle Bob averred that, being the engine of meaning, it is up to you to decide on the degree of significance.
His discussion of emic and etic realities in Quantum Psychology makes for interesting reading, if you are into the whole 'in your head' vs. 'out there' brouhaha.
>>2050 It's a mix of people writing creative fiction, paranoiacs and the genuinely disturbed, pranksters and possibly players of obscure ARGs in my opinion. Yes, I think some of it at least is supposed to be funny. Some of it is also very dark.
Oh dear. That's a lot of text. I'm not sure if I should have opened those links. I'll get back to you in a week. That's if I'm not knocked off by MI5 first.
>>2092 Yeah certain journalists get a kind of Satanic panic inspired hysteria over that whole area. Kincora is a lot more troubling than Bryn Alyn though. Can we really say all these stories are just hysteria? What about Sarah Bland, at first sight that really did look like an archetypal stinking heap of Hollie Grieg cobblers, the more I found out about that the more convinced I was that something very bad happened.
The Sabine book pretty much made it clear that Dutroux's defence case was bullshit - I guess the true believers at this point will claim it's black propaganda and they end up like the Holocaust deniers who will see anything which contradicts their belief system as an evil plot by the enemy.
It's a kind of quicksand of the mind to consider the possibilities and a hugely psychologically unsettling field to enter, which is why so many writers whose critical thinking skills are underdeveloped or have serious mental health issues end up repeating nonsensical Icke/O'Brien/Springmeier crap and you end up with dear old Emily of this parish and her recent disciple Red Ox http://www.henrymakow.com/mi-6_mk_ultra_a_uk_survivors_s.html
In comparison to such people Joel van der Reiden is a much more measured voice and has some great information on things like Le Cercle which is backed up by other researchers - Lobster magazine etc.
>>2095 Without opening that link, I can tell from the URL that it is not only unrelated but also illegal. The injunction in ZAM v CFW & TFW is still very much in force.
>>2097 The difficulty in this case is that one can't really explain what the problem is without breaching the injunction. You know how discovering there was a second series of Lost kind of gave away that they weren't getting off the island? Same sort of thing.
The link deleted which we are not permitted to discuss possibly does have a connection to the Dutroux case and its associated implications, or it simply may be a case of a family fall-out over money which has reached horrific levels of bitterness.
A website dealing with numerous unusual topics which gets the mind working along apophenic lines is the excellent http://www.perceptions.couk.com/ - it has pages directly related to issues in this thread.
I especially like this paragraph I found on the site:
>Personal recall seems to eventually serve up a `bubble', encapsulating many details around a requested memory-event; although its dimensions - and delivery time - can vary. It's as if you'd accepted the offer of a friendly ether-visitor from Zeta Reticuli or the Pleiades, who would organize your memory's rooms, cupboards and cabinets in return for browsing privileges. Of course, being `ethereal' your e.t. friend's communications come through most strongly after midnight, or later.
http://p-cca.org/2012/ is something The Tavistock Institute has been recently working with, as well as collaboration with Dartington Social Research Unit and others on a £25m project to 'prevent youth offending' through 'replication of proven interventions'.
The Population Council is another body who use the 'replication of proven interventions' jargon. No doubt if we squint at Tavistock through the looking glass at twilight the mass euthanasia plans are there to see.
Over the last few weeks I have been insta-banned from about 6 different IPs for doing nothing more than trying to open threads.
I'm not sure if they're randomly banning people or if the NWO have decided my brain is full of enough shit already. I know that without cookies, and from different IPs, they really shouldn't be able to trace me across sessions. Yet they did.
>>2139 Maybe it's some kind of RFID or nanotechnology thing with being able to track and trace individual computers? The infamous 'one time port scan' used by GLP is certainly intrusive enough. There is a great deal of circumstantial evidence that the website is a creation of USAF Special Forces: if so, they are going to have unusual methods and a lot of money to spend.
"Really? Than why can't I mention a certain institute based in a private university neighboring UC, Berkeley? Why can't I mention a certain human relations intitute that begins with a 'T'?
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17926316
Do tell.... "rubs hands together in an inquisitive manner " lol?
Quoting: kcdub0184
don't even go there
it won't end well for you
lol" - site owner Trinity addresses the Tavistock rumour at message1935185.
"The Emerald Coast Chapter is pleased to announce that the 2nd quarter winner of “Tester of the Quarter” was Mr. Jason Lucas of the 46 Range Group, 46th Test Systems Squadron (46 TSSQ). As Program Director for the Joint Test & Training Ops Control Capability (JTTOCC) team, Mr. Lucas and his team developed numerous new capabilities to support the Eglin Test and Training Complex (ETTC). The total number of ETTC range missions is expected to increase annually over the next 5 years due to new F-35 training flights, 7th Special Forces Group (SFG) mission requirements, and other additional units recently assigned to Eglin AFB. One of the team’s goals was to integrate the operations of the Eglin Radar Control Facility (ERCF) with the Range Operations Control Center (ROCC) to enhance communication and cooperation between these crucial mission areas. The team designed and managed the development of the architectural plans to modify an existing building to house both ERCF and ROCC functions, and established a timeline for executing the move with an aggressive schedule. The team also developed a Common Operating Picture (COP), fusing the schedule from Center Scheduling Enterprise (CSE) with data from air/ground tracks into a single tailor-able display, providing unprecedented situational awareness of the range complex and storing data for analysis of range usage and facilitating real-time decision-making by range operators."
J.L. is Trinity, webmaster of GLP being discussed above. I am 100% convinced right now that the site is a military experiment. Never mind the tinfoil hat, I need a Faraday Tent.
>>2199 Because for someone in foreign territory, a mobile phone is nowadays less conspicuous than a short wave radio? And I imagine they work on the same old one-time-pad lines.
In all seriousness: don't let craziness like this thread prejudice you against meeting a mental health professional whom you might get on with. I know a very nice doctor who was Tavistock-trained.
The Tavistock Institute and the Tavistock Clinics share a name and little else, apparently.
I know that my CV would get me instant acceptance and I could, for a start, address the language some of the fucking idiots they have working for them use.
Decided against it when I reflected that like quite a few of fellow Russell group graduates in the UK, I am feeling very literally treasonous currently.