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>> No. 434030 Anonymous
31st January 2020
Friday 8:43 am
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How will you be celebrating Independence Day?
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>> No. 434139 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 3:45 pm
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>>434136
In the 2019 general election people were more likely to vote Tory over Labour from age 39 onwards. I don't know if the crossover age was established for the EU Referendum but polling found every age group from 45 to 54 onwards was more likely to vote leave.

The most important thing to remember about the vote itself age-wise is that young people didn't bother to turn out to vote in large numbers.
>> No. 434144 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 5:37 pm
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>> No. 434148 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 6:06 pm
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It's happening lads.

I've just been to Tesco's and they had no cucumbers. Soon we'll be experiencing empty shelves and starvation like you get in socialist countries.
>> No. 434149 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 6:08 pm
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>>434144
Most grown up people don't take pointers on politics from eugenicists who wanted to sterilise the poor all because he lacked basic literacy in the contemporaneous understanding of biology.
>> No. 434150 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 6:28 pm
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>>434148

I'd rather starve than eat enforced straight cucumbers.
>> No. 434151 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 6:43 pm
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>>434149
The other problem with that quote is that he never actually said it.
>> No. 434152 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 8:00 pm
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>>434148
Well I just popped into waitrose and they were flush with cucumbers - regular, salad (?), and organic.
>> No. 434153 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 8:13 pm
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>>434152

>and they were flush with cucumbers - regular, salad (?), and organic

That'll scare the cats.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agi4geKb8v8
>> No. 434154 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 9:28 pm
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>>434152
The true horror is that from now on our shelves will only be packed with healthy salads and overpriced organics. We laughed when Gove talked about cleaning up the nations plate but now look at us when Easter is just around the corner.

>>434153
I've tried this before with cats and they've all just turned to look a me like I'm a dickhead. Is this all just an elaborate internet prank to ruin my street-cred?
>> No. 434155 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 9:34 pm
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Never mind cucumbers, it's less than 24 hours and now this.
>> No. 434158 Anonymous
1st February 2020
Saturday 10:22 pm
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>> No. 434159 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:25 am
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>>434154

I tried with my cat when he was lolling on the carpet in summer. I got a still-wrapped cucumber out of the fridge and put it slightly behind him. He leaned back and used it as a pillow. I think he was enjoying the coolness.
>> No. 434160 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 7:28 am
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Happy Brexit Day.
>> No. 434165 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 10:20 am
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>>434160

I have a feeling this is insincere, it reads like it was written by somebody who is uncomfortable with xenophobic rhetoric trying to sound like they are. Could be wrong, but it seems that way to me.
>> No. 434166 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 10:26 am
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>>434165
I dunno, lad. It was found in a council tower in Norwich for the over 55s.
>> No. 434167 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 11:04 am
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>>434165

That's the impression I got too, but I read this morning that the police are involved now, I think if it was insincere it wouldn't have actually been left somewhere to be reported.

But not many of the people I've met who really do think like this would think to type up a letter like this and print it out. Usually they do their 'campaigning' verbally.
>> No. 434168 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 11:16 am
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Be interesting to see if they can trace the device it was printed on.
>> No. 434169 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 12:02 pm
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>>434168
I don't know if it's in the hands of the regular plods but it's entirely doable.
>> No. 434170 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:11 pm
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>>434169

Interesting. How would a piece of paper be traceable to a printer?
>> No. 434171 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:23 pm
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>>434170
Yellow dots invisible to the naked eye.

https://qz.com/1002927/computer-printers-have-been-quietly-embedding-tracking-codes-in-documents-for-decades/

>By analyzing the dots in the top-secret document, researchers were able to conclude it came from a printer with a serial number of 29535218, model number 54, and that it was printed on May 9, 2017, at 6:20 a.m.
>> No. 434173 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:32 pm
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>>434170

All modern printers put an invisible barcode type imprint on the paper, it's a unique serial number tied to the printer. Since most people probably bought their printer on Amazon with their real name and address and card it's a simple matter of asking the company for the corresponding printer and then asking the seller to release information on who bought it. The police have just unveiled a new facial recognition program in London to nothing more than muted grumbles, assume your privacy is gone and anything with a silicon chip can be traced back to you with ease.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_Identification_Code

>The EFF stated in 2015 that the documents that they previously received through the FOIA suggested that all major manufacturers of color laser printers entered a secret agreement with governments to ensure that the output of those printers is forensically traceable.

The only way around it apparent to me is second hand printers, but I don't imagine the kind of people who buy printers to be the kind of people who use second hand shops, especially when you can get a printer for less than £25 on Amazon these days. Given that this happened in a poor person flat I'd suggest that the culprit, if we can use such a word for a person who falls afoul of such a tacky law actually used a communal printer like in a library, in which case he's fucked.
>> No. 434174 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 1:37 pm
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>>434173

The main obstacles to them being found are that a) the police dealing with it may not know about this and b) they may not care enough to go through the rigmarole of following it up.

I always thought it was "rigamarole".
>> No. 434176 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 2:00 pm
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>>434174

While I hope they don't follow it up I find the idea of thousands of pounds of police money going on chasing the author of a poorly formatted flyer with a vaguely racist tone which doesn't actually say anything explicitly racist incredibly funny.

Even better if it was done on a second hand printer and the police have to go through dozens of hours of pawn shop footage to get a grainy image of the author then track his movements all the way home on the day across 30 different street and bus CCTV cameras.

Then the CPS decides not to prosecute.
>> No. 434178 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 5:32 pm
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>>434171
>>434173

Really fascinating, I had no idea about this.

Regarding privacy, I have less concern for the printer technology than I do the facial recognition, for some reason. Probably because printing material is more of a deliberate action than just existing in a place where you're being recorded.
>> No. 434179 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 9:43 pm
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>>434173

Time to invest in dot matrix lads
>> No. 434180 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 10:00 pm
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>>434179

I bet the dots in a for matrix are basically a fingerprint anyway.

We still use them at work. A few companies still make them and the roll fed ones are about four hundred quid each.
>> No. 434182 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 11:23 pm
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>>434180

You can get ancient ones off ebay for cheap if you still own a computer with a parallel port. I still remember the day I finally got BSD lpr/lpd to work with a dot matrix printer that someone had chucked out. Good times.
>> No. 434183 Anonymous
2nd February 2020
Sunday 11:39 pm
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>>434180

You can see the individual pins in a dot matrix head with a jeweller's loupe. There just isn't enough resolution to hide a code in there. It's possibly possible that you could fingerprint the impression made by each dot based on the unique wear pattern on each pin, similarly to firing pin or bullet striation analysis in firearms forensics. Of course, you do make yourself rather identifiable by being to one weirdo who prints their death threats with a dot matrix.
>> No. 434184 Anonymous
3rd February 2020
Monday 3:39 am
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>>434167
>I think if it was insincere it wouldn't have actually been left somewhere to be reported.
The general way of manufacturing this sort of outrage is to print the note, put it up, then immediately post a picture of it on the social network of your choice. You then leave it up for someone else to find and report on.

Typically these people don't know about the yellow dots, so it might still come back to bite them.
>> No. 434188 Anonymous
3rd February 2020
Monday 12:22 pm
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Passive aggressive notes are cowardly. Sign them and face the concequences of your thoughts or fuck off. If you've a problem, deal with it or don't. Anything else is to harbour a stagnant resentment.
>> No. 434191 Anonymous
3rd February 2020
Monday 3:36 pm
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>>434183

It's all a question of how far you are prepared to go with your forensics.

It is known that the East German Stasi secret police very closely monitored commercially available typewriters, to the extent that a type sample of every typewriter in the country was at one point on file in the Stasi's database. The idea was that this would help easily identify political dissidents who would create pamphlets on a typewriter or other anti-government material.

BBC Four showed the award-winning film The Lives of Others a while ago, which is universally acclaimed for its historical accuracy, and in it, an East German dissident is given a typewriter that was smuggled in from West Germany via underground contacts, precisely because it wasn't in the Stasi's database, and that way, that dissident was able to write secret accounts of life in East Germany that would be passed on to West German media, without being found out.
>> No. 434226 Anonymous
6th February 2020
Thursday 4:56 pm
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-guernsey-51364513

Bit fishy, that story
>> No. 434251 Anonymous
9th February 2020
Sunday 11:35 am
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Immigration: Salary threshold set to be lowered

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51430811

Lower salary thresholds to attract immigrants we actually need, like for the NHS. Perhaps this Brexit malarkey is going to turn out just fine.
>> No. 434258 Anonymous
9th February 2020
Sunday 2:39 pm
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>>434251
I'm not racist but; how does the continuing pilfering of the developing world solve actual issues in the teaching and nursing professions? At the very least, a sector with a "skills shortage" should try paying a decent wage first followed by asking why so many critical sectors of our economy have low productivity compared to our rivals.

Also:
>Points will also be awarded for speaking good English

Great time to be running a degree mill I guess.
>> No. 434260 Anonymous
9th February 2020
Sunday 2:49 pm
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>>434251

If there's one thing both parties have demonstrated, it's that there's no interest in upskilling workers in this country to equip them to perform the jobs we need doing. It's far cheaper and more efficient to just import labour. No matter what kind of game they talk about immigration, it's never ever going to be reduced by any significant amount by either party.

It's a depressing reality to face but honestly I don't think anyone running the show in this country is bothered about productivity or the like any more. Britain has been long since set aside for asset stripping, essentially. The banks have a comfortable time in London and that's basically the only thing that matters in the eyes of anyone who gets within sniffing range of power.
>> No. 435082 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 4:30 pm
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>>434251
I mean the NHS was doing fine with EU immigrant labour.

I thought Brexshitters voted to get rid of forrins, not import more of them?
>> No. 435083 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 4:36 pm
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>>435082
Immigrants aren't a homogeneous blob.

People have no issue with skilled staff coming to work for the NHS and fill shortages. This is what taking back control of our borders means; it has never meant getting net migration to zero or blocking migrants the country actually needs.
>> No. 435084 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 4:41 pm
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>>435083
>This is what taking back control of our borders means;
No, that's what it means to certain groups of people, other groups of people don't see the distinction.
>> No. 435085 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 4:54 pm
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>>435084

Fighting phantom racists again?
>> No. 435086 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 5:06 pm
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>>434260

We have a substantial number of low-skilled vacancies that British people don't want to fill and are only marginally economically viable. Without ~70,000 seasonal agricultural workers, large parts of the British farming industry can't operate. You could argue that farmers should just pay better wages, but that only works if people are willing to pay more for a British punnet of strawberries picked by well-paid Brits than a Spanish punnet picked by Poles on minimum wage.
>> No. 435087 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 5:21 pm
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>>435086

Seasonal is the real boogieman there. If it's a minimum wage job nobody is going to switch to it for an economic benefit when it's available and nobody can survive on half a year's work at minimum wage.

There is a solution that doesn't involve unskilled immigration, simply subsidise mass construction of temporary accommodation around farmland, it only needs to happen once, the buildings are permanent while their use is not. Subsidise the mass transport of 70,000 workers from various cities up north with high unemployment to the farms in the south once at the start of the season and once at the end. Then add a special rule to the benefits system which allows the unemployed to avoid the many many failings of taking seasonal work before going back on benefits. This system is largely the same as it is now but it doesn't involve bringing more people here to fall in to the seasonal work/living 12 to a bedroom trap and offers some assistance to the people we rely on to pick our food.

You could argue that the British worker is fundamentally lazy and won't sign up to the Cropportunity Program but that's just untrue. If it's marketed correctly as a rewarding retreat a lot of doleites will jump at it. The habitually unemployed often bemoan the lack of purpose in their life, if this is seen as a genuinely positive program with health benefits and isn't laughed at like Enterprise or Apprenticeship schemes were people will be on board.
>> No. 435089 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 7:43 pm
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>>435087

Making that kind of work a tax-free bonus for the long term unemployed is the kind of fantastic idea that'll never be implemented because there are too many twonks out there that'd recoil at any suggestion of "helping out the workshy" or whatever.

Forcing prisoners to do it for 60p an hour would probably be more in line with our current government.
>> No. 435090 Anonymous
1st March 2020
Sunday 8:18 pm
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>>435089

PAYING prisoners for a day out in the sun?! What snowflake came up with that idea?
>> No. 435095 Anonymous
4th March 2020
Wednesday 11:58 am
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>>435090

Here's something for your daily piss boil:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/feb/25/norwegian-prison-inmates-treated-like-people
>> No. 435096 Anonymous
4th March 2020
Wednesday 1:09 pm
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>>435090

Don't some Yank states make prisoners pay for their time behind bars? It's exactly the sort of blatantly fucking moronic idea I could see Sun readers getting behind over here. YER, WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR THEM SCUM TO HAVE THREE HOT MEALS A DAY WHEN THERES KIDS STARVIN? MEK EM PAY THERE OWN WAY.

brb, I'm off to write a quick pitch to Kier Starmer.

In all seriousness though, everyone who's ever owned a dog knows the carrot is far more effective than the stick. Why are we so determined not to ignore that principle when dealing with people.
>> No. 435097 Anonymous
4th March 2020
Wednesday 1:12 pm
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>>435096

Why don't we just bring back hanging? Dead men don't eat food.
>> No. 435099 Anonymous
4th March 2020
Wednesday 1:32 pm
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>>435096

>YER, WHY SHOULD WE PAY FOR THEM SCUM TO HAVE THREE HOT MEALS A DAY WHEN THERES KIDS STARVIN? MEK EM PAY THERE OWN WAY.

In a country like the U.S. with a sizeable number of people who are white, free, and 21 and struggle to maintain a roof over their heads or three meals a day, providing free room and board for a segment of the population that has broken society's rules seems like an outrageous thing to do. Then again, it really reflects badly on a society, especially in a rich country as the U.S., when it cares fuck all about those that have failed but potentially have done nothing wrong their entire lives in the eyes of the law, and effectively affords them a poorer standard of living than that of a convicted felon. Smug white middle class people volunteering in soup kitchens and counting their blessings on the way back to their suburban four-bedroom homes isn't the same as having a government system in place that makes comprehensive efforts to help the poor and get them out of poverty.

So I guess then in Norway, a country with one of the highest baseline standards of living in the world and a rock solid social safety net, it doesn't seem like an outrageous thing to do to have a prison island that really looks more like a holiday resort.
>> No. 435107 Anonymous
5th March 2020
Thursday 12:40 pm
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>>435099
You do occasionally read about blokes in this country committing petty crimes almost immediately after being released from prison and claiming that they only did them because they don't want to sleep on the streets.
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5th March 2020
Thursday 12:45 pm
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>>435107
You do.
>> No. 435117 Anonymous
5th March 2020
Thursday 3:08 pm
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>>435107

>You do occasionally read about blokes in this country committing petty crimes almost immediately after being released from prison and claiming that they only did them because they don't want to sleep on the streets.

I think it's also because after five or more years in the clink, they're struggling to adapt to the outside world. In prison, your entire day is structured from beginning to end, you have no noteworthy say in it, everything is taken care of for you. And to then go back out and do all the things a responsible adult is supposed to do, like hold down a job, deal with authorities, and find a place to live, must seem daunting.

As far as I am aware though, there are enough programmes for released offenders to help them back on their feet. And it can be done. The most crucial thing, if I remember my prison pop psychology 101 correctly, is that these people are kept from reassociating with their old peers that led them to commit the crimes that they went to prison for. Your parole conditions can even spell that out as a requirement.

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