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>> No. 425684 Anonymous
5th April 2019
Friday 11:36 pm
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So am I the only one who is getting a bit annoyed by this whole Greta Thunberg cult, or am I just too much of a cold hearted cynic that the world would be better off without?

I don't doubt the legitimate concern of her generation over climate change, after all it will fall to them to sort out the utter fucking mess that we have left the planet in, but all the awards that she is now being showered with are IMO just middle aged and old people's guilt over their own failure to save the planet's climate despite having had decades of prior warning, and who lost their way and succumbed to high carbon footprint consumerism somewhere between 1990s road protest villages and today's school runs in a 4x4. None of it feels sincere or genuine, it's more like, yeah, just take all these awards and shut the hell up already.

And parents whose children now protest every Friday or so are now engaging in pissing matches on twitter and Instagram to show off which one of their kids gets the most involved. As one commenter said, nothing good has ever come of a youth protest movement that was applauded by parents.
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>> No. 431298 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:03 am
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>>431296

I just think it's depressing that you lot still have hope.
>> No. 431299 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:07 am
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>>431295
>You know what I felt pretty bleak about the world around 2014-15

Oh, to renew those halcyon days... I do tend to err on the side of caution when it comes to seeing the past as better than what it really was, but in this instance I do think you have a point. I don't remember feeling like I was a grunt in the great information war everytime I was online back then, perhaps it was ignorance, or maybe the fear, uncertainty and doubt truly is mounting for good reason. I think I'd have gone utterly off my rocker by now if I was plugged into social media in a big way too.

>>431296
That really wasn't the point he was making, ecolad.
>> No. 431300 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:24 am
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>>431296

>cool, you're over hearing about climate change. you can just safely ignore it then

Most things in life do go away all on their own if you just pay them no mind, don't you know. We'll just ignore global temperatures back down. That'll work. Ignorance is still the only true bliss.
>> No. 431305 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:52 am
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Greta should come to saville Town near Dewsbury. Stand up in the community centres. Tell the bearded men OMG DEADED
>> No. 431306 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 2:06 am
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>>431300

Camping out and eating vegan sweets in London is doing exactly as much to change the situation as I am by ignoring it.
>> No. 431307 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 3:12 am
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>>431306

Right. That's Greta's whole message. Camp out and eat vegan sweets.
>> No. 431309 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 3:16 am
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>>431307

It's not are Greta's fault that the message is twisted. No need to bully her here.
>> No. 431310 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 3:31 am
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>>431307

Tell that to XR then mate?
>> No. 431311 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 7:09 am
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Fucking hell, XRlad. You didn't tell us that you'd be able to claim up to £300 per week in expenses from them for protesting. Kept that hit quiet.
>> No. 431312 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 8:49 am
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>>431306
Do I have to explain the point of protesting for the millionth time? No one thinks dressing up as the "Red Brigade" and getting collared en masse is going to suck CO2 from the air and put solar panels on roofs, but it draws attention from the populace, the media and government, which increases the likelihood of whatever you're protesting about staying at the top of the agenda and therefore the odds someone will do something about it.
>> No. 431313 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 9:34 am
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Is it just me or is there one lad in this thread who seems to be repeatedly grasping the wrong end of the stick? Or he's just trying to be BRILLIANT and failing.
>> No. 431314 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 11:19 am
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>>431313
Probably the resident yank lad, worried his burgers are going to be taken away.
>> No. 431317 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 11:43 am
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>>431312
But protesters can generally be safely ignored in such relatively small numbers. It's just fringe weirdos.
>> No. 431321 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:06 pm
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>>431317

Except it isn't and you'd know that if you weren't actively in denial.

>more than 100 healthcare professionals joined the sixth day of climate change protests
>Doctors, nurses and medical students were among those demonstrating at Jubilee Gardens
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/extinction-rebellion-protests-activists-hold-faux-funeral-procession-as-arrests-top-total-from-april-a4260126.html

>Saturday's protest, organised by the environmental group Extinction Rebellion, drew at least 20,000 people, including representatives from women's movements, student groups and trade unions.
>Many actors, musicians and politicians have taken part in the civil disobedience campaign.
>Kevin Treweeks, grand secretary of Plymouth in Unison, a trade union in the south-west of England, called on more workers' groups to join the movement.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/10/uk-climate-activists-hold-funeral-procession-planet-191012183408672.html
This is despite the fact that it was raining the entire time.

As for being "safely ignored":
>Up to 100 police officers are being deployed from Scotland to London next week to assist with the Extinction Rebellion protests.
>Met Police chief Cressida Dick said the force had been "stretched" by the protests
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-50029194
Which conveniently doesn't mention the extra police drafted in right from the start from Devon, Cornwall, Gloucestershire, Kent, Surrey, Wales and all sorts of other places.

>As of 17:30hrs on Saturday, 12 October, there have been 1,307 arrests in connection with the ongoing Extinction Rebellion protests across London.
>> No. 431324 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:15 pm
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Here's Reuters on it too;
>More than 300 scientists have endorsed a civil disobedience campaign aimed at forcing governments to take rapid action to tackle climate change, warning that failure could inflict “incalculable human suffering.”
>In a joint declaration, climate scientists, physicists, biologists, engineers and others from at least 20 countries broke with the caution traditionally associated with academia to side with peaceful protesters courting arrest from Amsterdam to Melbourne.
>Other signatories included several scientists who contributed to the U.N.-backed Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-climate-change-scientists/scientists-endorse-mass-civil-disobedience-to-force-climate-action-idUKKBN1WS01F
>> No. 431326 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:28 pm
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>>431317
But they aren't being ignored, they're on the news all the time and people are talking about XR day in, day out, like you are right now. Stop trying so hard to be contrary.
>> No. 431327 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:40 pm
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I got flipped off by a hipster on a bicycle for honking at him yesterday when he crossed the road right in front of me out of nowhere on his bike. With no pedestrian or bicycle crossing in sight.

It wasn't just the middle finger, but the expression on his face of moral superiority because I was driving a climate polluting, space consuming automobile, and he was so much better than me because he was riding a bike.

Not saying cars aren't bad for the environment, especially my old banger, but I refuse to let hipster cumshites get away with feeling superior to me that way.
>> No. 431328 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:44 pm
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>>431327
Did you read all that from his expression?
>> No. 431329 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 12:46 pm
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>>431327
A contender for the most Poe's Law poty
>> No. 431330 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:02 pm
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>>431328

It's a particular facial expression that any non-sperg should be able to read and identify correctly.
>> No. 431331 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 1:04 pm
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>>431330
You had someone read it for you? Think they might be having you on.
>> No. 431334 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 2:19 pm
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>>431327
Have mercy, it's about the only way he can feel superior to anybody.
>> No. 431335 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 2:45 pm
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>>431327
Cool story bro.
>> No. 431337 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 7:50 pm
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It's curious that the BBC isn't reporting on last weeks actions directly at all. Just that thing about the Scottish police officers. You'd think the longest large-scale occupation of London since Occupy (if not longer) would be "in the public interest". I know they're receiving enough complaints about the lack of coverage continually that their complaints switchboard keeps crashing (both the online one and their phones).
Would I be paranoid if I thought there was something fishy about it?
>> No. 431338 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 8:23 pm
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>>431337

Are you suggesting some kind of conspiracy in which powerful people do favours for other powerful people to the detriment of the public? What utter piddle and tosh.
>> No. 431339 Anonymous
13th October 2019
Sunday 8:52 pm
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>>431311
I see you read the Daily Mail.
https://rebellion.earth/2019/10/13/read-all-about-it-response-to-mail-on-sunday-as-1000s-come-together-for-life-on-earth/
>> No. 431343 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 2:04 pm
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>>431339

Daily Mail pointing fingers.

Shocker.
>> No. 431344 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 3:50 pm
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>>431337

It's been shown very conclusively (maybe some of the strongest evidence you can find in the social sciences) that media coverage of events is heavily influenced by ownership, advertising, complicity and collaboration among media circles, mudslinging/flak, and political ideologies that target a common enemy. I'd highly recommend reading Manufacturing Consent by Chomsky and Herman for this.

The BBC is a state broadcasting agency. Despite its editorial guidelines for impartiality, it cannot reach that standard by virtue of its organisational structure -- it may not be dependent on advertisers, and relies on public funds, but there is still very close relationships between government, private companies, and the BBC.

Remember that the Iraq war protest in London in February 2003 is regarded by some as he largest in British history. A couple of months later the BBC aired this gushing report on the news at 10:


>> No. 431345 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 4:53 pm
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>>431344
>The BBC is a state broadcasting agency.

Honestly think I might have explained why this is wrong more times than I've explained the purpose of protest.
>> No. 431346 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 4:56 pm
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>>431344
>The BBC is a state broadcasting agency. Despite its editorial guidelines for impartiality, it cannot reach that standard by virtue of its organisational structure -- it may not be dependent on advertisers, and relies on public funds, but there is still very close relationships between government, private companies, and the BBC.
Yes, the BBC is reliant on public funds, and as we've seen the Government can retaliate for things it doesn't like through its funding streams (see: World Service, S4C, over-75s, etc.), but that argument is a bit beyond the pale.
>> No. 431348 Anonymous
14th October 2019
Monday 10:38 pm
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Absolute shitshow from the police doing a lot of illegal things today. Breaching human rights. No, I can't be bothered to argue with you pedantic-technicality-bootlickerlad.
>> No. 431349 Anonymous
15th October 2019
Tuesday 12:14 am
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>>431348
>Absolute shitshow from the police doing a lot of illegal things today.
In other words, "policing as usual".
>> No. 431351 Anonymous
15th October 2019
Tuesday 8:49 am
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>>431349
Granted, but they're doing it to people who know their rights and can afford lawyers.
>> No. 431355 Anonymous
15th October 2019
Tuesday 1:55 pm
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>>431351
It's like they say, all are equal before the law. It doesn't matter who you are, coppers gonna cop.
>> No. 431375 Anonymous
15th October 2019
Tuesday 10:02 pm
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Well done, hippies. You've gone and made Lewis Hamilton suicidal. Nice one.
>> No. 431376 Anonymous
15th October 2019
Tuesday 11:03 pm
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>>431375
I was tempted to say his "damned agriculture, polluting by a means my employers aren't invested in" message was more cynical that it might appear, but I checked and Mercedes do indeed sell farming vehicles.

I guess he's off to Formula MemE next year.
>> No. 431378 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 12:17 am
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>>431375

What's the carbon footprint of a Formula 1 car then?
>> No. 431379 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 12:27 am
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>>431378
About one F1 car's worth.
>> No. 431382 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 4:56 am
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>>431355
It doesn't seem like the cops know they're breaching human rights, from their point of view they're just doing what they're told and comparing notes about how unusual ("a solicitor!" "I got a nun!") the people they're arresting are. They're not bad people, they're just some of them a bit blinkered about what's actually going on.

My arresting officer tried to empathise with me by talking about how he didn't like how sometimes traffic fumes smelled bad. As though that's the issue. In his defence, he also was bursting for a piss for hours or was off his face on modafinil, boy could hardly stand still. He was less than half way through a 12 hour shift, his friends were on 16 and 18 hour ones.
>> No. 431383 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 7:01 am
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>>431376
>I guess he's off to Formula MemE next year.

I think he's just having a massive sulk because his teammate won the last race; he's a bit of a drama queen when things don't go his way.
>> No. 431385 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 7:53 am
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>>431382

>He was less than half way through a 12 hour shift, his friends were on 16 and 18 hour ones.

The fact that you seem shocked that someone might be doing a 12 (or 18) hour shift, and that officers find novelty in arresting the sort of people protesting says everything, really. I hope you know that. It's not impressive that solicitors or celebrities can join in the protests, it's confirmation that they have much more freedom than the rest of us, than the people working in the polluting industries you're railing against. If you think a bit harder about why you find it notable a copper has a twelve hour shift, you might start to work out why he seemed "blinkered to what's actually going on" and why others aren't paying that much attention to this crisis as you expect them to.
>> No. 431388 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 1:25 pm
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>>431382
Ah so they're just following orders.
>> No. 431389 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 1:29 pm
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>>431388

Difficult to do 'owt else when you're on 12-18 hour shifts.

Still, they knew what they were getting in to when they joined the police, there's no real dress up on "oppress your fellow citizens on behalf of the rich in exchange for money."

Being ignorant of the current political situation doesn't excuse them, as they're so fond of saying, ignorance is no defence in law.
>> No. 431390 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 1:41 pm
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>>431389
>Still, they knew what they were getting in to when they joined the police
Did they? Is "oppress the poor" how the police are portrayed in mainstream culture, or is that just a left-wing analysis? Ask a ten year old who wants to be a police officer when they grow up why, and "to uphold the supreme authority of the state" is not going to be the answer.
>> No. 431392 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 1:46 pm
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>>431390

So I can't dislike a 30 year old man because his 10 year old self made a major life choice that he just never got around to reassessing?

[X] Whine mate.
>> No. 431393 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 2:52 pm
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>>431388
I've checked and the Nuremberg Defence is valid so long as they don't know the orders are in breach of human rights. Enough of a fuss has been made about this since yesterday that they'd be hard pressed to prove they don't know any more.

>>431385
I'm not shocked at all, I was just remarking on what I saw and heard. Much like the lad who thought he could read a cyclists mind from a brief facial expression, that's all shit you've invented in your head.
>> No. 431394 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 4:31 pm
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>>431389

One the one hand, it does take a certain type of person to join the police. On the other hand, I'm sure there are plenty of idealistic types who honestly believe they're joining up to make the world a safer place. After all, they are usually pretty thick.
>> No. 431396 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 5:47 pm
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>>431378
FWIW the FIA purchase carbon credits to offset all the track sessions and globetrotting and have done for over 20 years. That just leaves the small question of teams' R&D activities.
>> No. 431398 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 6:53 pm
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>>431396

What does that actually do though?
>> No. 431405 Anonymous
16th October 2019
Wednesday 8:26 pm
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>>431398
Mainly make Bernie and Max feel better about themselves. I imagine their successors haven't stopped due to the bad PR that would go with it.

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