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>> No. 413296 Anonymous
19th October 2017
Thursday 3:34 pm
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>> No. 413276 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 8:58 pm
413276 Fiscal study Locked
Omg tax the rich and everything will be freeee!


Key findings:
- After controlling for differences in workers’ characteristics such as education and experience, there is little difference between the pay of public and private sector workers. Continued public sector pay restraint would likely push pay in public sector relative to the private sector to historically low levels.
- Compared to private sector pay, public sector pay is lowest for highly educated workers. For the almost two-thirds of public sector workers who have completed higher education, pay is slightly lower compared to the private sector than it was prior to the recession. This group has also seen particularly large increases in the contributions they have to make to their workplace pensions. Public sector pay is also lowest compared to private sector pay in London and the South East.
- It is therefore among better paid and higher educated public sector workers – such as teachers or senior civil servants – and those working in London and the South East, that we might expect greater recruitment and retention issues and a more pressing need for pay increases.
- Public sector workers continue to receive considerably more valuable workplace pensions than the private sector on average. In 2016, 83% of public sector workers received an employer contribution to their pension worth 10% or more of their salary, compared to only 11% of private sector workers.
- Relaxing the pay cap and increasing public sector pay in line with inflation or private sector pay would cost public sector employers around £3 billion a year in 2018–19, rising to around £6 billion a year in 2019–20. Because of the relative sizes of the workforces, the cost of increasing pay for police or HM Forces is much smaller than increasing pay in the NHS, schools or the civil service.
Jonathan Cribb, a Senior Research Economist at the IFS, and author of the report, said,
“The government is considering lifting the public sector pay cap for at least some workers. If it decides to maintain the 1% cap, we should expect increasing difficulties in recruiting, retaining and motivating high quality public sector staff, reducing the quality and quantity of public services. But increasing pay for these workers implies substantial extra costs to public sector employers. The Treasury could provide extra funds for this by raising taxes, cutting other spending or borrowing more. Asking the NHS, for example, to fund higher pay increases from within existing budgets would be very challenging.”

(A good day to you Sir!)

>> No. 413265 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 7:36 pm
413265 Freedom of speech thread Locked

It is extremely worrying that freedom of speech is being stifled in UK universities, places where dissent and counter arguments / difference of opinion should be encouraged and debated. There is no longer a place for argument and counterpoint in high level education unless you fall in with the approved groupthink.



(A good day to you Sir!)
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>> No. 413268 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 7:53 pm
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Freedom of speech thread debased to /iq

The rot is worse than expected
>> No. 413270 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 7:58 pm
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>Your poor grammar


>unwillingness to embed that YT video

I submit to no will you Na zi
>> No. 413271 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 7:58 pm
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>Freedom of speech thread
Because not being able to go onto private property and call out the muzzers, nignogs, bumders and lezzers therein is totally a restriction on freedom of speech.
>> No. 413274 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 8:18 pm
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What you saying lad, you're on a ramble of thought.
>> No. 413275 Anonymous
14th October 2017
Saturday 8:45 pm
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No, you're right lad. This sort of restriction is a serious limitation which nobody in academia should have to put up with.

Now back to /iq/ with you, adventurer.

>> No. 413138 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 5:13 pm
413138 Tobacco is a natural pesticide
I've just discovered a recent change in the law regarding raw tobacco; namely use of it is now treated as a controlled activity and you have to apply for HMRCs approval.

With this in mind, how would somebody interested in the personal use of raw tobacco leaf go about procuring the substance legally? If they were to simply buy leaves online, could they expect a visit from HMRC (or even their package confiscated before delivery)?

Raw tobacco as a controlled substance/activity as of April 2017 -

A more thorough article here - https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/excise-notice-2003-tobacco-duty-the-raw-tobacco-approval-scheme/excise-notice-2003-tobacco-duty-the-raw-tobacco-approval-scheme
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>> No. 413140 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 5:38 pm
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The application process for an individual seems easy enough. You just need to write a letter to HMRC telling them what you're doing, including where you'll buy it from and how much.
I assume HMRC would mostly focus on the people selling raw tobacco, making sure that they're only selling to people who've gained a licence, and asking for records of just how much you're buying.

You'd want to make sure that you keep copies of all the paperwork for everything you buy.
>> No. 413200 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 12:26 pm
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I once brought home a tobacco plant in a pot from a shop in the Netherlands just for decorative purposes. Will that kind of thing be illegal in the future?

(the plant has died since... I forgot to water it before I went on holiday)
>> No. 413201 Anonymous
9th October 2017
Monday 12:30 pm
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There are specific exceptions for botanical purposes.

>If you keep plants of the genus Nicotiana for horticultural purposes in the UK then you’ll be exempt from approval to hold or transport the plants when they die (at which point they are raw tobacco and subject to the approval scheme). To be exempt you must not:

>hold or transport an amount of waste raw tobacco which exceeds 2kg at any one time
>hold approval for another controlled activity
>manufacture tobacco products
>If you don’t meet these conditions then you must apply for approval.

>> No. 412820 Anonymous
16th September 2017
Saturday 9:25 am
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Twisted paedophiles are impersonating chicken nuggets online in order to lure unsuspecting children.

They’re also pretending to be ice creams and actual roads in order to attract school kids, according to social media safety expert Dr Maureen Griffin.

‘At primary school level, I have dealt with accounts set up pretending to be chicken nuggets and ice-cream in order to friend children,’ she said.


Another filthy pervert set up a fake social media account and posed as a road outside a girls’ secondary school.

She said: “Over 400 girls at the school accepted the road as a friend. The owner of the account was a known convicted sex offender who made no effort to contact the girls, he didn’t follow them or meet them in real life or wait outside their school. He simply collected their photos, pictures from teenage discos, girls’ sleepovers and a range of selfies.”


I'm finding it increasingly difficult to tell the difference between reality and satire.
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>> No. 413019 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 12:30 pm
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>I think I've already told you lads before how that little cunt unfriended me a few weeks later.

How incredibly rude. 12-year-olds should know better.
>> No. 413179 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 2:42 am
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>that little cunt

>> No. 413182 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 7:13 am
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What actually is the scientific name for a foot fetish?

>> No. 413183 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 9:43 am
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That's the term for someone who has a foot fetish, but close enough.
>> No. 413195 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 11:42 pm
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On the next Jeremy Kyle: My stepdad keeps stealing my shoes.

>> No. 412775 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 12:26 pm
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Everythings shit. I want to run away and live in canada for a years or so. See the world and all that jazz. How do I start the process? I'm going to save up a couple of thousand and then go.
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>> No. 412808 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 9:48 pm
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Perhaps the best advice so far.
>> No. 412811 Anonymous
15th September 2017
Friday 11:03 am
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I had a mate who literally went there on a trip for two weeks and had his whole life torn apart by them.

He is a white male, too.
>> No. 412813 Anonymous
15th September 2017
Friday 4:45 pm
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If Canadian border officials are the stick that breaks the camel's back, the camel was likely knackered to begin with.

t. Confucius
>> No. 412919 Anonymous
21st September 2017
Thursday 1:38 am
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come to Phoenix, we can drink beer and go to the range
>> No. 413180 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 2:48 am
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>He is a white male, too.

LOL at your brainwashing http://www.latimes.com/world/africa/la-fg-malawi-albinos-hunted-2017-story.html

(A good day to you Sir!)

>> No. 413178 Anonymous
8th October 2017
Sunday 2:29 am
413178 NBPE
Thread for people that have NBPE

>> No. 412788 Anonymous
14th September 2017
Thursday 6:32 pm
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The previous tenant was a cunt and never changed his address, so all his fines, and criminal activities means that all these weird enforcement types keep rushing to my mum's house. She has been renting the place for the past year, and she isn't very able, so it takes her a while to come downstairs.

So far, a new "enforcement" chap comes around once or twice a month. They take down her details and fuck off. This almost always happens at 7 AM - even on a Sunday. So I caught one of them while I was staying with my mum and gave him a piece of my mind. Apparently they are all these private companies acting on behalf of the court or whoever is after the previous tenant. I even told the police that the criminal doesn't live here any more. I told the court and everyone in between, but this bollocks harassment isn't stopping. Today one of them came around and stuck a letter through the door stating that they will forcibly enter next time around.

What am I meant to do about this? They are greatly stressing my mum and that is just not on. What if they smash down the door? What then? This is utter bollocks.

Maybe if everyone was allowed to bear arms this type of shit wouldn't be happening as often. Fucking cunts. Who else should I be telling that they should look elsewhere for their criminal? The fucking secret service? Absolute bollocks.
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>> No. 413143 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 7:08 pm
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I understand the crack I just don't understand why no one sanity checked this shit before it reached this point.

It should be someones job to eyeball that shit, I realise it is a tedium but we are talking about an enforcement order here, at least one decision making person should be in the loop. If these things can get all the way through due process to bailiffs getting called out with no one questioning. How much bigger will the hole get when things get further automated. I had to go through all manner of automated switch board bollocks to get to the Accountant that helped, what happens one day when they decide that should be fully automated and my options are solely to pay immediately. The bailiff isn't going to listen to my plight because he sees a bill of 1.3k not 27p. End to end automation is not something that should be implemented by anyone not clairvoyant enough to predict every foreseeable future event, that way lies dystopia.
>> No. 413144 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 7:36 pm
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I worked in council tax recovery about 7 years ago. It was outsourced to a division of Bertelsmann, who have their fingers in a few pies like owning Penguin Random House and the BMG record label, but we still worked in the council offices and had the same employment rights and access to the local government pension scheme through TUPE.

Your local authority must be really inept. Bailiffs should be the very last resort. They should have at least contacted you try and arrange a repayment schedule or sent an attachment of earnings order to your employer and even then requests to the team who dealt with the bailiffs would need a fair bit of justification. I usually dealt with people after it had been to court but there was a fair bit of discretion in the role.

Usually people are given at least three strikes before they'd be issued with a court summons; even if they lose the right to pay monthly in arrears an alternative arrangement can be agreed. A fair few people would turn out to court and they'd have the opportunity to contest it in the court room but I can't recall any doing it when I was there, they'd usually just have a quick rant with you beforehand. We'd give the list to the courts, sit there in silence whilst in session and then they'd approve it. I think it cost about £3 per application but we'd add about £90 to the bill for it.

Where I worked there was a small number of people with balances of a few pence from previous tax years but they were never chased up because it was never viable but they'd also never get added to the current year's bill for some reason even though it was a known issue. A lot of it is system generated and we'd be there when it came into the in-tray on Oracle or whatever and human input was needed.

When I worked there someone returned their council tax statement covered in human poo. The elderly mail room woman had to go home sick.
>> No. 413146 Anonymous
6th October 2017
Friday 11:30 pm
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this thread has put the shits up me as I checked my mail and discovered a summons to pay 720 or something CT.

Anyone lend me a few quid?

I'll be alright.
>> No. 413147 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 1:32 am
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Well don't just sit there man, surely you've gleaned from this thread what you should do next.
>> No. 413156 Anonymous
7th October 2017
Saturday 10:53 am
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I need to sort it out before the month is up, that's what I need to do.

>> No. 413064 Anonymous
2nd October 2017
Monday 2:57 am
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Hey Lads, what do you think of the new Drunken Racists logo?
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>> No. 413116 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 8:44 pm
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If in doubt, "some other substantial reason" will cover a multitude of sins.
>> No. 413117 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:28 pm
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>You can't fire somebody simply because of their political views

BNP membership was a sackable offence in most of the public sector, on the basis that the policies of that party are contrary to the Equality Act and the Race Relations Act. It's conceivable that the decision to sack someone on the basis of Drunken Racists membership could be upheld at an Employment Tribunal.
>> No. 413120 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:41 pm
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Not the other lad but I'd argue your boss has already crossed the line into constructive dismissal by essentially saying "yeah I can't fire you for it but fuck off all the same". Someone shouldn't mouth off their politics at work of course but your employer sounds like a cunt to skirt the law so finely on such a trivial matter.

For the record there is nothing in the Drunken Racists policy that is fundamentally opposed to "promoting ethnic diversity" in the workplace.

No its not and after the Drunken Racists adoption scandal you can bet the press would eat you alive for trying.
>> No. 413121 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:45 pm
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Replying to the wrong person bucko, not my boss.

>the Drunken Racists adoption scandal
In my mind that was the point at which Drunken Racists experienced their explosion in attention and popularity and became a mainstream party, but no-one seems to believe me.
>> No. 413123 Anonymous
5th October 2017
Thursday 9:49 pm
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>BNP membership was a sackable offence in most of the public sector

You have stricter codes of conduct in the public sector. And the BNP is still a step up from Drunken Racists.

>> No. 413014 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 10:48 pm
413014 Tribunals, fucking tribunals.
Fucking PIP tribunal turned me down. Again. Third one.
They actually got some points this time, The doctor was particularly sympathetic but the Judge was a wanker, kept pressuring them, asking *why* they couldn't fill in forms. "I can do it , so why can't you" is pretty much exactly what she said.
Please say actions like that call the neutrality of the court into question?

Oh, also, they tried to claim that PIP and ESA were 'either/or' benefits (this was the DWP representative who was there!) which is blatantly not true!

These are tory run kangaroo courts, but how do we prove it? Any tips for getting past these?
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>> No. 413015 Anonymous
27th September 2017
Wednesday 11:31 pm
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>> No. 413016 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 3:32 am
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Well, why couldn't you?
>> No. 413020 Anonymous
28th September 2017
Thursday 4:46 pm
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Go down the CAB, that sounds like your last option but please don’t quote me.
>> No. 413025 Anonymous
29th September 2017
Friday 4:26 pm
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If you don't mind me asking, what's your disability, OP?
>> No. 413040 Anonymous
30th September 2017
Saturday 12:50 pm
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It helps in the first instance if A) You go in armed with GP and Consultant letters as documented evidence and B) you go with a health care professional, a support worker or something like that, to the initial assessment that can answer questions like "How long can you walk for?" because who the fuck times themselves to exhaustion?

>> No. 412852 Anonymous
19th September 2017
Tuesday 4:07 pm
412852 Why's Britain so fucked up?
I ask myself frequently.
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>> No. 412981 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 9:08 pm
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Strange line of thinking, given that maximising how much you earn in total is smarter than maximising how much you earn in benefits.
It would seem more realistic to presume they beg, steal, borrow or outright make up the hours in some time-wasting activity so that the state will keep paying the outsize cost of housing benefit to avoid the stress of being booted out of their home.

Better to have people out of work than to have anyone encouraging employers to provide precarious jobs, dragging down standards and social expectations for everyone. I'd rather pay double tax in a job-for-life to subsidize the lazy than deal with precarity.

Alternatively, keep the shit jobs and reform benefits so that they're a stable living on paper so long as you spend 16 hours a week building cats out of old bottles for Etsy, rather than just being a stable living if you're lucky enough to live near one of the JobCentres filled with people who help you lie on the forms rather than one of the ones with an advisor who hands you a pen containing a cyanide capsule, promises to be back with the claim form in a few minutes and then locks you in a room with YOU ARE SURPLUS FLESH daubed on the walls in goat's blood.
>> No. 412982 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 9:17 pm
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Well, yes. When you make up a completely baseless fictitious scenario that's clearly terrible it'd make sense to avoid it. Steady on the hyperbole, lad.

>Strange line of thinking, given that maximising how much you earn in total is smarter than maximising how much you earn in benefits.

They're effectively trapped. If they work full-time then they're not considerably better off. I've worked in council tax recovery and when you're sat with someone outside the court room going through the finances of how working full-time means they only have a marginally greater amount in their pocket due to the reduction in benefits it's hard to disagree with them. It's more common than you think.

Would you work more than you have to if there's no significant difference?
>> No. 412983 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 9:31 pm
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>When you make up a completely baseless fictitious scenario that's clearly terrible it'd make sense to avoid it.
Bit rich, m7.
>> No. 412985 Anonymous
26th September 2017
Tuesday 2:05 am
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Welfare reduction means an effective marginal tax rate many the same as someone earning many mutiples more than them, if not more than that.

An argument for UBI actually, though im not sure what in thijk about that.
>> No. 412990 Anonymous
26th September 2017
Tuesday 7:39 pm
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I'm in Swindon.

Why is everyone so fat and ugly here? It's like being in the north. Absolute shithole.

>> No. 412958 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 12:50 am
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Lads... I need something to do to preoccupy myself with to escape the relentless existential crisis and suicidal thoughts. I'm mainly unsatisfied with my life and don't know how to fix it. Cigarettes and alcohol can only fix so much. So I thought I would make an app. A small project to fret over.

What will it be about? After five minutes of thinking, I realised I want it to be about how shite everything will be in 30~50 (maybe even 100) years time if we don't do something about global warming. It will have a slider for the years you want, graphs and such about ocean levels, weather in whatever city, etc. I might even include bogus stories about natural disasters like hurricanes, floodings, starvations, etc.

Since I don't know anything about programming other than doing one module of FORTRAN in Uni, this will be a good and long project to waste my life over.

I will start doing proper research tomorrow while I make it seem like I'm working. In the meantime, what language should I learn to make this app? Would I have to learn two different languages if I want to make apps for both Apple and Android? For those who know about these sorts of things, how long would you think it would take to learn a language and make an app from scratch? Years? Also, is there any good literature for this sort of thing? Or just books on whatever language you might think is good to have a crack at.

I will also buy a Cactus. I will name it Uncle Ouchie. "Ouch! Uncle Ouchie hurt me, mum!"
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>> No. 412962 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 11:36 am
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I don't know about programming but you can get most of the data you want from http://www.futuretimeline.net
>> No. 412963 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 12:22 pm
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You should put this in /g/, so you can enjoy a proper cunt-off about which language you should learn.
>> No. 412967 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 1:31 pm
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By default, you would have to make separate apps in different languages to cover both Apple & Android. There are cross-platform solutions, but I've yet to see one unambiguously worth recommending.

I'd recommend picking one platform (what phone do you have/for Apple, do you have a Mac) and get started there. Plunge in, start making things. Fuck the analysis paralysis; you won't know how you should've written the app until you've already done it badly.

You may be able to find decent books/literature. I'd just get stuck in with Google/Apple's respective tutorials. Work through relevant ones, whenever you come across something you don't understand either language-wise or app-wise go Google about it.

Your project sounds fun. You will learn plenty. Don't get discouraged: learning is hard.
>> No. 412971 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 2:46 pm
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Udacity and Coursera both have courses in app development. There's a fee if you want graded assignments and a certificate, but you can study their materials for free.
>> No. 412984 Anonymous
25th September 2017
Monday 10:35 pm
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For an app that simple, given that you've seen Fortran once, full-time I think you could deliver one app within a year. Sadly, there isn't a development environment worth talking about that covers iOS and Android, so you have to go native on each - learn Objective C or Swift for iOS and Java for Android. I would just pick one platform to begin with, depends on what kind of PC you have access to at home.

Good luck lad - it's a difficult ask but I've heard worse pipe dreams.

>> No. 412905 Anonymous
20th September 2017
Wednesday 1:57 pm
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>The judge also likened the offence to throwing litter on the street rather than in a bin, prompting one commentator to point out that banana peels or chocolate bar wrappers could be stashed in a pocket and dumped at any point in a gender-neutral bin.

When did bins ever have a gender? This is getting out of control.
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>> No. 412942 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 4:35 pm
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Is that your fetish?
>> No. 412945 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 4:48 pm
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No, but I would definitely lurk in a nearby shopfront using my phone to discreetly take voyeuristic photos of fit birds having a piss, IYKWIM.
>> No. 412946 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 4:57 pm
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that looks fucking grim, even for a man.
(i'm assuming it's like that all the time, not opened out for repair or something.)
>> No. 412948 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 5:23 pm
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Well here's me feeling a bit thick. I honestly thought it was one of these ones.
>> No. 412952 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 7:24 pm
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So are you going to stop being a bigot now?

>> No. 412874 Anonymous
19th September 2017
Tuesday 10:16 pm
412874 Skinheads
Are skinheads still a thing or has the subculture more or less disappeared?

Here in Yankeeland, the subculture consists mostly of middle aged men reliving their glory years drinking and moshing with the occasional teenage or 20-something hipster adoping a retrofashion.
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>> No. 412922 Anonymous
21st September 2017
Thursday 4:03 pm
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What's so incorrigibly foreign about talking about skinheads?

They're quintessentially British.
>> No. 412923 Anonymous
21st September 2017
Thursday 6:04 pm
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Such a lack of reading comprehension could only come a yank. My post wasn't directed at OP in the slightest, I was merely pointing out that posting to all boards has been allowed to all boards forever and that /zoo/ is more of a containment zone for foreigners that just won't stop being foreign (or it used to be, I haven't seen it in a while).
>> No. 412925 Anonymous
23rd September 2017
Saturday 12:27 am
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probably comes as no shock that there are lots in the north east still.
>> No. 412929 Anonymous
23rd September 2017
Saturday 2:17 pm
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That camerawork and editing is making me nauseous.
>> No. 412931 Anonymous
24th September 2017
Sunday 3:37 am
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>>412925 so did the amount of beer they paid for

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