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>> No. 8117 Anonymous
6th January 2021
Wednesday 8:22 am
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Several lads here seem to have a grasp of investments and so on. Do any of you have a regular income outside "earner income"? What kind of category does it fall into, and how did you come into it?

I had a nice image, but brian isn't playing ball today. It's a list of different (very broad) types of income:
1 Earner income : work a job
2 Profit income : buy and sell
3 Interest income: lending money
4 Dividend income: owning stock
5 Rental income: renting out property
6 Capital gains : assets increase in value
7 Royalties: others use your work
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>> No. 8238 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 3:45 pm
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The ~£221 in my Trading212 account on Friday is now up to ~£262 at the minute. Lads, how do I stop myself from getting carried away and pumping all of my cash holdings into shares I know nothing about?
>> No. 8239 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 4:30 pm
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First piece of advice is not to take financial advice from anonymous strangers online.

Second would be not to put more into the market than you can afford to lose. Who knows how long this bubble will last?

Third don't invest in things you don't understand. Good gamblers tend to know a bit about the horses they are betting on beyond their names. is a good site for reading up on individual shares.

'A Random Walk Down Wall Street' is a classic investing book
'The Intelligent Investor' is a good, more recent book on the topic which details a defensive investment strategy.
'Quantitative Momentum' is one I read recently which I have been using to interpret charts.
>> No. 8240 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 8:34 pm
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I'm "down" to ~£247 so that has tempered some of my enthusiasm. My problem is that I have poor impulse control and can get carried away.

I'll keep with the stocks I have for now and next time I'm looking for something new I'll analyse the hivemind:
>> No. 8241 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 10:52 pm
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Cool site, but for all the stocks I looked at the reddit peak interest follows the market action (reddit interest doesn't appear to cause share price increase). Peak reddit interest tends to be followed by a plateau in share price.

I'd like to see a similar site for 4chan /biz/ stock mentions

I'd also like to see cluster analysis regarding which stocks are mentioned in the same place/by the same people

This is pretty interesting too

2021 is the year that Bitcoin millionaires from 4chan accidentally initiated an international, decentralized, non-linear hedge fund waging war against aggressive short sellers. It's behaving like an egregore.
>> No. 8242 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 2:59 am
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Had $8 left in my Revolut, so bought some GME. I have no idea what I'm doing, but if I can turn it into £20 then curly wurlies are on me.


>> No. 11742 Anonymous
3rd May 2019
Friday 6:12 pm
/beat/11742 What you feeling right now? Part V: Bach it up
Time for a new thread.
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>> No. 12656 Anonymous
20th January 2021
Wednesday 12:44 am
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Greatest hippy-hoopster song of all time.
>> No. 12657 Anonymous
20th January 2021
Wednesday 7:32 pm
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>> No. 12658 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 2:05 pm
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Made me think of you, you beautiful robot moon ovens.
>> No. 12659 Anonymous
23rd January 2021
Saturday 7:36 pm
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How come you get musicians singing about lockdown but I think we've only had one Covid tv show (Pandemonium)? I want to laugh about the situation we're living in but someone up top decided we wouldn't have April Fools and that rule carried on.

I didn't enjoy this.
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27th January 2021
Wednesday 1:28 am
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>> No. 27266 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 5:21 pm
/news/27266 Corona thread #3
Right, now that the last corona thread is over 1,700 posts long, maybe it's time for a new one.

How long do you think it will be until we're fully back to normal?
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>> No. 30704 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:39 pm
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It would make sense in theory to test people for covid antibodies who may unknowingly already have had it, if just to have more doses available for those who really need them, but in practice that doesn't solve your problem, because it isn't even known yet how long a natural immunisation through contact with the virus itself will last. Initial studies point to a pretty certain immunity for about five months, but what will happen after that is impossible to know at this point as we're barely a year into the whole thing. It could be that the average healthy person will have immunity for years, but it's also not yet understood why a couple of people have verifiably become ill with covid twice.
>> No. 30705 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:53 pm
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The Ab tests are woefully inaccurate though. And you can lose expression of circulating antibodies, so test negative, but still be immune due to memory T cells and other Immunological witchery I don't really fully understand.
>> No. 30706 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 10:32 pm
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>The Ab tests are woefully inaccurate though

Which is why fewer and fewer countries accept antibody tests from travellers wanting to enter that country. A lot of them now insist on negative PCR tests that aren't older than 72 hours. I've read that about Spain, and I think it now also goes for Germany. Which is probably a logistical nightmare of its own if you want your lab results back in time to catch your flight.
>> No. 30707 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:34 am
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>but it's also not yet understood why a couple of people have verifiably become ill with covid twice.

I'd add 'completely' to that. Your body builds immunity upon exposure to this or that (or the other) but that doesn't mean that after it your immune and most of the time that is fine - you catch the same cold again. The article I linked further up had 95% of a sample with some level immunity (down to the immune response in question), that's not invincibility but if they got sick again they wouldn't be as sick with all things being equal.

That is why at the moment people aren't worrying about the children, its assumed they'll exercise their bouncebackability and that their immune system will be trained over a lifetime of exposure just as we get colds. Anyone who says otherwise is being a bit of a rice-merchant.
>> No. 30708 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:54 am
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>Which is probably a logistical nightmare of its own if you want your lab results back in time to catch your flight.

I bet it would be hilarious if someone did turn out to have covid and you end up trapped in a plane on some foreign runway. In hour 16 your trying to listen to Pets 2 for the third time through broken headphones as everyone else sings songs over it to keep their spirits up, broken up by screaming toddlers and the smell of dirty nappies.

Like married life only your married to an obnoxiously loud events manager on one side and an oddly smelling guy who works in a slaughterhouse on the other who keep glancing at your cock.


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>> No. 91916 Anonymous
15th January 2021
Friday 1:42 pm
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Has there been one single actual advantage of Brexit yet?
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>> No. 92069 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:29 pm
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Exactly this, get me the fuck out of here please.
>> No. 92070 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:36 pm
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I actually feel for the Home Office given that it has been nearly 5 years of absolute kid's gloves and Brexit dominating the news. Anyone who still doesn't have this sorted is royally taking the piss and shouldn't get special treatment compared to any other immigrant.
>> No. 92071 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:20 am
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Not the lad you're replying to but I don't plan on sticking around long enough for the door to hit me. Soon as this pandemic shit is over and my visa application is back, I'm gone. Fuck this place.
>> No. 92072 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:41 am
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I only just got back to being in the UK in Sep '19 after leaving in 2015.

Looking at these most recent messages.

If rats are first to leave a sinking ship, what organism is quickest to return to one?
>> No. 92073 Anonymous
27th January 2021
Wednesday 12:50 am
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>> No. 23506 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 1:41 pm
/v/23506 Adam Curtis
Well, it seems we have a new Adam Curtis series that will be shown from mid-February.

>It covers a wide range – including the strange roots of modern conspiracy theories, the history of China, opium and opiods, the history of Artificial Intelligence, melancholy over the loss of empire and, love and power. And explores whether modern culture, despite its radicalism, is really just part of the new system of power.

The greater part of me really does like Adam Curtis and sees a great deal of depth to the ideas he presents, but the lesser part of me feels he's been saying the same thing for decades. Looking forward to this anyway, it should be interesting looking at how he explains how we've been hoodwinked into believing symptoms to be root causes again.
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>> No. 23514 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:21 pm
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How about: by selecting the footage and flow of the documentaries he is imposing a narrative on the unfolding events of the world in exactly the manner that he criticizes others for doing. He's just doing Antithesis to their Thesis.

I think the man is a genius. I was just going to post the parody video otherlad posted. I think disliking the aesthetics of it is valid. Some people don't like ambient music for example.
>> No. 23515 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:23 pm
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Alan Moore and Adam Curtis in conversation about the Illuminati from a few years back.
>> No. 23516 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:57 pm
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Awesome. Thanks for this.
>> No. 23517 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 10:11 pm
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Here's him on Chapo if you're a completionist.
>> No. 23518 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 10:15 pm
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>An interview with the documentary filmmaker Adam Curtis


>> No. 67924 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 8:55 pm
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This still freaks me out.
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>> No. 67926 Billbob
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:03 pm
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Stop looking at it then.
>> No. 67927 Samefag
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:16 pm
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>> No. 67928 Billbob
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:29 pm
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100 pounds off is a bit of a bargain though like.

I think...

I don't really know what the going rate is for haunted postman pat sex dolls.


>> ID: da7644 No. 15432 Anonymous
17th July 2020
Friday 7:31 pm

ID: da7644
/shed/15432 fixing some bugs
So please report in if you see something shit.
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>> ID: 8c0cdb No. 15709 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 6:03 pm

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IIRC they made the mistake of not ensuring they had secured their access after the fact by e.g. changing the password or creating extra admin accounts, so the fun was short-lived. Would have been fun to take down Prosecco Stormfront properly from the inside.
>> ID: 99a328 No. 15710 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 6:10 pm

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I am only relaying what I half remember from a decade ago, I don't really care where it came from.

The fact you would take my rather neutral recalling of events as me havine a "The chip on your shoulder" speaks volumes about your hang ups though.
>> ID: bb7c62 No. 15711 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 8:04 pm

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Does it now
>> ID: acd590 No. 15712 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 8:04 pm

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I don't know what you're talking about, but it was Heartbleed that allowed our resident hacker on steroids to inform Mumsnetters that GLC were a great bunch of lads to go on the lash with.
>> ID: d11585 No. 15713 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:13 pm

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U avin a teary ladm7? Can't even call someone your property without getting looked at sideways nowadays.

I do worry about calling the wrong kid a cheeky monkey one day. Is society taking the right path with this?


>> No. 5637 Anonymous
12th May 2015
Tuesday 11:26 am
/uni/5637 Collegiate System
There's something I'm not getting at all. So I managed to get accepted to Oxford (postgrad) and after that, I'm supposed to get a college. They just "forward" your application, nothing else to do but I managed to get rejected from the two colleges I chose semi-randomly based on how nice the building looked, and as a foreignlad I'm wondering what's the point of it, besides cheaper accommodation.
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>> No. 6428 Anonymous
14th January 2021
Thursday 6:41 pm
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I work here currently, but am unfortunately not engaged with the College system at the moment (But it's not like there's much happening rn anyway).

I was trying to find a picture of a Formal from Hilary last year where the Hall was all decked out with anti-sneeze plastic cubicles and there were about 5 people sitting the length of an entire table.

Oxford is pretty quite these days. I don't think any Undergrads are here this year except Med Students. I think even Post-Grads are being encouraged to stay at home unless they are Research based.
>> No. 6429 Anonymous
14th January 2021
Thursday 8:13 pm
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>> No. 6430 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 6:10 pm
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It would be if >>6427 was a student at Oxford. You need to get better at reading things, old boy.
>> No. 6431 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:25 pm
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I didn't study at Oxford, don't work there and in fact have never even been within forty miles of the place.

I, also, couldn't tell you why the collegiate system is structured how it is.
>> No. 6433 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 9:13 pm
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I don't think anybody knows.

I think that even if you got all the college heads and departmental heads together to draw a diagram of how it all worked they wouldn't be able to.

It's probably a veritable labyrinth of bureaucracy and tradition.


>> No. 62741 R4GE
19th March 2019
Tuesday 3:21 pm
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Vorderman from the front.
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>> No. 67873 Are Moaty
23rd January 2021
Saturday 2:37 pm
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Vorderman in cashmere
>> No. 67874 Crabkiller
23rd January 2021
Saturday 3:16 pm
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These are starting to get samey. Where are the ones of Vorderman playing Guitar Hero? with an M1 Garand? Vorderman having a nervous breakdown?
>> No. 67876 Ambulancelad
24th January 2021
Sunday 3:20 am
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You know what else is samey? heroin. And heroin doesn't need improving.

Though I wouldn't be averse to seeing vordz posing with old weaponry.
>> No. 67877 Ambulancelad
24th January 2021
Sunday 12:59 pm
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Fluffy vorders.
>> No. 67925 Samefag
26th January 2021
Tuesday 8:58 pm
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Pilot Vorderman.


>> No. 441558 Anonymous
11th January 2021
Monday 8:46 pm
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New midweek thread: chip butty edition.

Is it even midweek? The days have all blurred into one and lost all sense of meaning.
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>> No. 441880 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:03 pm
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But then you'd need to find a new property with the same number as the one on your existing bin. Pretty foolish to limit your options like that.
>> No. 441881 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:37 pm
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My shower and bathroom radiator fucked themselves about 3 months ago. I'm desperate for a hot cleansing shower. My facial skin is almost a sickly yellow green from the buildup of oil under it. Thankfully the blackheads aren't horrific, but if i don't do something about it soon they surely will be.
>> No. 441882 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:46 pm
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Balls of Steel was shit. I never really understood why Alex Zane had a TV career.
>> No. 441883 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:56 pm
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Yeah it was dire, though Zane's bits always tended to be the best of the worst. He was basically copying Quizzlestick.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 7:59 pm
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He's actually really, really good at hosting naff TV shows that go out at or after 11pm.


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>> No. 67920 YubYub
26th January 2021
Tuesday 5:24 pm
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did anyone ever play the game british bulldog in primary school?

it was something to do with running back and forth across the playground but i never understood what was going on

what the hell was actually going on?
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>> No. 67921 Auntiefucker
26th January 2021
Tuesday 5:31 pm
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Other people were trying to grab you and stop you. If you were never tackled it's prolly because you smell.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 5:42 pm
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Fuck off stinky.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 5:48 pm
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>> No. 67899 Paedofag
25th January 2021
Monday 11:01 pm
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So, apart from the pope and mass, what actually is the difference between Catholicism and protestantism?
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>> No. 67915 YubYub
26th January 2021
Tuesday 4:06 pm
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I'm fairly certain it began when priests starting absolving people of their sins for money and a german posted on a message board (kruatchan?) that that was bullshit.
>> No. 67916 Paedofag
26th January 2021
Tuesday 4:17 pm
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Omnia sunt communia.
>> No. 67917 Are Moaty
26th January 2021
Tuesday 4:24 pm
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No need for that language, m74.
>> No. 67918 Auntiefucker
26th January 2021
Tuesday 4:55 pm
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No it woz 'enry tha eif innit, wanted to divorce his missus woz wot dun it.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 5:13 pm
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No it wozzen't.


>> No. 3611 Anonymous
23rd February 2012
Thursday 8:01 pm
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As a 19 year old male would it be considered suitable (pun not intended) to wear a suit in less formal situations, such as lectures or casual social situations? Or would it just be a case of overdressing?

The reason I ask this is because the only time I've been complemented on my dress sense is when I've suited up. It feels nice to wear suits and increases my confidence.

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>> No. 6330 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 9:31 pm
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Only suits we're wearing these days are tracksuits lad.
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25th January 2021
Monday 9:42 pm
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That one signals a very specific lifestyle, if you are Wes Anderson or don't mind being mistaken for him by all means.

If your mates don't expect that kind of style from you they will probably take the piss, if they do it will be entirely accepted. Put it another way.. How middle class are you? I mean everyone thinks they are middle class, but are you actually REALLY middle class, the kind who are incapable of reverse snobbery.
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25th January 2021
Monday 11:44 pm
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If you have to ask, you're not stylish enough to pull it off. Sorry, that's just how it is. Ease yourself in gently with a couple of jaunty blazers for your summer wardrobe and see how you go.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 12:52 am
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If you have a darker skin tone I reckon it would work, but you risk looking like your texture's failed to load if you're the same colour as the suit.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 4:13 pm
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My sister spent a fiver on a silky face mask in almost the exact same tone of pink of that suit, she seemed very proud of it until I told her that it made her look like the main character from the "I Have No Mouth And I Must Scream", she hasn't worn it since.


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>> No. 67878 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 11:09 pm
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>> No. 67909 Billbob
26th January 2021
Tuesday 12:46 pm
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Wasn't C. S. Lewis a paedo? I may be thinking of Lewis Carroll. Then again, they could both be pdfs.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:17 pm
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You are thinking of Carroll. Lewis's biggest fault was he was a massive Christian apologist of the "god works in mysterious ways" variety.
>> No. 67911 Crabkiller
26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:33 pm
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That's all very well and good, but it doesn't help illuminate the discussion, just to shut it down. I'm curious about the criteria of childishness, not whether or not a healthy mind is in denial about their inner child or whatnot.

I am also specifically curious as to why more adults don't climb trees.
>> No. 67912 Are Moaty
26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:40 pm
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Anyway lads, what are the good games for a Switch? I'm to get vouchers soon as part of my bonus and as you'd imagine there's nothing I really need at the moment.

Trubbish is the land counterpart to Koffing (air pollution) and Grimer (water). It's not an independent mon, a terrible design and totally unnecessary filler as Grimer never operated that way.


The difference is that Blastoise was a rad end-of-game evolution for a 10 year old.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 2:30 pm
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>> No. 430053 Anonymous
31st August 2019
Saturday 8:53 am
/b/430053 Literal "what are you feeling right now" thread
Shamelessly stealing the very excellent idea from >>/101/28964

Here is a place to post utterly inane observations about your current state of being.


I like birds but starlings are a massive noisy pain in the arse.
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>> No. 441832 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 12:55 pm
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Police Academy was funny the first two or three movies, but after that, it just became painful to watch. They were milking a franchise for every last drop whose potential was quite limited from the word go and which should have been discontinued after part 3 or thereabouts.

There were plenty of slapstick comedies in the early to mid-80s that were in a similar vein, like Spies Like Us or Stripes. They were all funny in their own way, but thankfully they attempted no sequels. Even Beverly Hills Cop II was pretty tepid, although Eddie Murphy was probably the funniest comedian of his time.
>> No. 441865 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 1:25 pm
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I'm trying not to be a hair-trigger maniac with no self-control, but it does feel like the only other option to allow awful shit-houses to be rude, contemptuous and faintly cruel for seemingly no reason.
>> No. 441866 Anonymous
26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:02 pm
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I find myself listening to a lot of old Depeche Mode at the moment, sort of from Black Celebration to Ultra.

Not sure what that says about my mental state at the moment. They always were a bit gloomy.
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26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:11 pm
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Try this

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26th January 2021
Tuesday 1:21 pm
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Sounds a bit like Psyche.

Also, next to 'Mode, I'm rediscovering Clan of Xymox.


>> No. 29826 Anonymous
6th January 2021
Wednesday 11:25 pm
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So what's all this about Americans rioting then? How come there's no American SWP representatives hanging around?
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>> No. 30673 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 3:53 pm
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>Election technology company Dominion sues Giuliani for $1.3 billion over 'Big Lie' about election fraud

I was kind of wondering the other day how Dominion would take all the allegations by the Trump team. Whatever you may think of voting machines, Trump was denigrating a commercial company's reputation without any substantial proof at all.
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25th January 2021
Monday 4:24 pm
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Giuliani has nowhere near a billion dollars.
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25th January 2021
Monday 5:19 pm
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He could turn the lights out and pretend not to be in when the bailiffs come a-knocking like everybody else in that situation.
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25th January 2021
Monday 8:07 pm
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let's hope his hair dye will hold up this time.
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25th January 2021
Monday 8:25 pm
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I laughed so hard when I saw that on the Guardian.


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25th January 2021
Monday 7:24 pm
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>> No. 67895 Are Moaty
25th January 2021
Monday 7:25 pm
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Shit was meant to be this


>> No. 6294 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 5:43 pm
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Where's a good place to get some good boots?
I'm not keen on the ones Clarks have at the moment. Something good and chunky for walking that I can polish and replace the soles on when they wear out.
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>> No. 6324 Anonymous
25th January 2021
Monday 1:48 am
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Now that this thread has me thinking about it; what are some good city boots/shoes? I walk roughly 4 miles in London conditions for exercise so I've just been using some sturdy trainers but last night the ice when I was walking over a bridge made me feel very uneasy. I fucking hate ice, lads.

What I don't want is something too heavy/bulky as I'm just on a stroll, work/milsec boots I feel would be both OTT and I'd look a bit of a twat (or I might get mistaken for a terrorist).
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25th January 2021
Monday 2:56 am
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Timberlands or similar would be the "style" choice, while remaining practical. But, there's only so much you can do for ice without having little metal spikes on your soles. Even in proper non slip safety boots, ice is still going to fuck you up.

You can get plastic ice treads that attach to your shoes/boots but that would almost certainly make you look a twat.
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25th January 2021
Monday 3:41 am
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Adidas Terrex are very good trail shoes and water proof, they cost about £70.

On the subject of hiking books, I have a pair of goretex hunting boots made by a company called Lacrosse that, allegedly, retail for £200-250 but I got them from an outlet store for £70. They have lasted me 10 years of hiking in all weathers and still don't leak, so I'd highly recommend them.
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25th January 2021
Monday 9:54 am
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>>6325 You can get plastic ice treads that attach to your shoes/boots but that would almost certainly make you look a twat.

I fell over on the ice yesterday, badly enough that I had to toddle over to minor injuries. Fuck's sake. I _knew_ it was slippy, just stopped paying attention for a moment.
Can you get boots with winter tyre tread? Those small tread blocks with the slits in do fantastic things for cars.
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25th January 2021
Monday 10:45 am
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It's a pair of these yer wanting. Permagrip soles; Timpsons, £19.99.

>> No. 91877 Anonymous
27th December 2020
Sunday 6:56 pm
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>LIZ TRUSS: Equality should be for everyone - not just for the woke warrior's favoured few

>Growing up in Leeds in the 1980s and 1990s, I was struck by the lip service paid by politicians to equality while, in the real world, children from disadvantaged backgrounds were being let down. At my comprehensive school, we had lessons in racism and sexism, but there was too little effort ensuring everyone had a grasp of maths and English.

>Leeds City Council – run by Labour and where Jeremy Corbyn’s former campaign chief Jon Trickett cut his teeth as leader – opposed the introduction of school league tables and anything else that might help children from poor families do better in class. Leeds was not alone. Many other councils considered high standards in schools to be secondary to their political projects – or even worse, they treated such efforts to raise children’s horizons as elitist. And since then, I have witnessed the spread of misguided, wrong-headed, and ultimately destructive ideas, which, sadly, have become steadily more prevalent in many aspects of British life.

>Take, for example, Labour-run Birmingham City Council. It recently announced plans to give six new streets names such as Diversity Grove, Respect Way and Humanity Close. Do councillors really think that names alone pave the way to real change? Too many people have jumped on this woke bandwagon and lost sight of what most people want: a life in which they can live happily in a secure home, work in a good job and send their children to a decent school. Rather than engage with these priorities, the Left has been swept up by a warped ideology and all its bizarre obsessions. As a result, there is a misguided emphasis on policing our vocabulary so as not to offend, rather than policing our streets. And the woke brigade is angrier about the ‘sins’ of historical figures rather than trying to make a better life for those who live today.

>Their answers are to introduce quotas, diversity agendas and so-called ‘unconscious bias’ training. But these crudely treat people as part of groups rather than as individuals. What’s more, those who do not fit in their cultural box-ticking – for example the white working class – are, in effect, written off. And despite their stated intention to improve society, I am convinced that these dehumanising, disempowering and dysfunctional ideas do nothing in practice to make life fairer. Those behind this pernicious woke culture see everything in terms of societal power structures. To these zombies, truth and morality are merely relative.

>The great irony is that with this moral blindness, the Left has allowed insidious practices to threaten equality. For example, it has failed to defend the single-sex spaces that were won by the hard work of women over generations. It has allowed the spread of antisemitism. It has allowed the appalling grooming of young girls for sex by elder men in towns such as Rotherham. It is vital that things change. The way forward is to ignore the Left’s empty gesture politics and give people more control over their lives. Compared with very many other countries, we can be proud about how far society has developed. Britain is more colour-blind and less sexist than ever. That said, we cannot be complacent. Families, especially those living beyond the South East, face serious hardships. Equality should be for everyone, not just for those groups that the Left deems fashionably worthy of such attention.

>What we don’t need is the type of patronising feminism symbolised by Harriet Harman’s notorious ‘pink bus’, which was driven around the country during the 2015 General Election campaign. It often repelled the female voters it was meant to woo. Let us not listen to a party that claims to champion women but which has never elected a female leader. The reason the Tory Party has had two female leaders and now has the largest ever number of people from ethnic-minority backgrounds in Cabinet is not because of positive discrimination, but down to positive empowerment.

>This Government was elected to level up the country – to fix the scourge of geographic inequality and ensure equal opportunity for all. This will not be achieved through identity politics, virtue-signalling or any other kind of right-on posturing. It can only be done if politicians are in touch with the real issues people face in their daily lives. This is a task already under way in government. The Treasury has made it crystal clear that it will assess all future big spending projects in order to guarantee that Ministers spread investment across Britain as part of our policy to level up the whole country.
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>> No. 92019 Anonymous
22nd January 2021
Friday 9:17 am
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>>91879 here again.

They're having a field day with this:

>The three wise monkeys have been a cultural trope throughout the world for centuries as a symbol of seeing, hearing and speaking no evil. Academics at the University of York have decided that they are, in fact, an oppressive racial stereotype, and pulled an image of the animals from their website to avoid offence.

>Organisers of a forthcoming art history conference apologised for using the picture in their call for submissions. “Upon reflection, we strongly believe that our first poster is not appropriate as its iconology promulgates a longstanding visual legacy of oppression and exploits racist stereotypes,” they wrote. “We bring this to your attention, so that we may be held accountable for our actions and, in our privileges, do and be better.”

>A spokeswoman for the University of York said that the organisers of the online conference, entitled Sensorial Fixations: Orality, Aurality, Opticality and Hapticity, were worried about a possible insult to ethnic minorities.
>> No. 92020 Anonymous
22nd January 2021
Friday 9:25 am
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>The woke left will naturally see this and double down ... The materialist left will remain a fringe minority

I think you should read this and see why your 'woke'/'materialist' dichotomy is bullshit.
>> No. 92057 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 5:30 pm
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Otherlad here. I sympathise with the author and find it disappointing that they experienced that at a political gathering describing themselves as the "left". I also broadly agree with their historical point about miners and LGBT people, and would of course like to see more of that kind of solidarity.

I do also think, though, that the hostility and ridicule they experienced is precisely the result of the divide-and-rule politics at play that >>92020 describes. I think the left has the far more difficult task in bringing together and adequately representing a far more diverse range of interests than the right, which are generally more organised consolidations of power -- not perfect, but surely from a narrower range of backgrounds and interests.

By necessity, it's also the working class that should make up the bulk of the movement in terms of sheer numbers. There's a fine balance between extending an olive branch to people who have already been deliberately conditioned to casual homophobia/transphobia/racism and accepting any level of prejudice against minorities.

Maybe the historical example is apt, as they clearly found a way to get past typical socially conservative rhetoric and see it as a matter of basic human rights, in the same way that LGBT people fully threw themselves behind the concrete material issues that plague the majority of the British population.

As a sidenote: I have been guilty of feeling frustrated with an ineffectual left, and it seems like this sentiment has been with us at least since the 1980s when Alexei Sayle was taking the piss out of people who "knit their own yoghurt". It's tempting to think that trans and LGBT groups are diverting people from material concerns in this way, but I've been kept grounded by actually having LGBT friends from both working and middle class backgrounds. Generally, they don't dismiss my concerns as long as I articulate them well and I don't dismiss theirs.

I also believe that our current economic system is one that will award performative and shallowleftism (which I think is what >>92020 really means by "wokeness") and punish any genuine solidarity that threatens to bring in larger crowds. It's why today we can read the Guardian but not the Daily Herald.

Similar dynamics occur around racial politics, too, by the way; American figures like MLK are remembered for their flowery speeches on issues which don't offend corporate or free market sensibilities, but they're not remembered for their solidarity with striking union workers.
>> No. 92058 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 5:31 pm
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Brian won't let me delete the post, but the two instances of >>92020 in there were actually meant to be >>91893.
>> No. 92059 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 10:57 pm
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Couldn't agree more.

The trouble is it's rare to see examples of real solidarity from those kinds of performative leftists, and it's hard not to come to the conclusion that they're either simple grifters making a bit of money and attention while it's fashionable, or they are intentional wreckers knowingly distorting the shape of leftist discourse.

Either way, it's pretty much inarguable, after everything that's happened over the last for or five years, that all of it is a massive own-goal for lefties and leaves us wide open for the right to score easy, cheap points by pointing at whatever the latest Twitter fad is and going "Look what those mad lefty snowflakes are up to now eh?! They're after female space marines now! Where will it end!"


>> No. 27223 Anonymous
28th August 2020
Friday 9:27 am
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Push to get staff back to offices amid warning of UK's 'ghost towns'

Workers will be encouraged to return to the office as part of a major media campaign to be launched by the government next week. The television and newspaper messages will promote the government’s aim to reduce the number of employees working from home amid fears that town and city centres are becoming ghost areas as workers stay away.

A report in the Telegraph said the campaign would push the emotional and mental health benefits of mixing with colleagues but also said that ministers would warn that those working from home could be more vulnerable to being sacked.

Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck off.
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>> No. 30649 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:24 pm
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Now look here! We might be a Constitutional Monarchy, But once in a while when they see fit we get to (with 10,000-100,000 other people), Pick a person, who is in the same club as a bunch of other people, and the lead of that club might get to pick who is in the government as long as more people get a seat from their club in a house and the monarch approves. Also there are a bunch of people who have equal power as the person we picked who are there because they are feudal barons.
>> No. 30651 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:26 pm
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Can't say fairer than that.
>> No. 30652 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 8:27 pm
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Have you got any that aren't Scottish though? As no Scottish Politician has ever really done anything of much substance.
>> No. 30655 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 9:25 pm
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Heard you the first time m7.
>> No. 30656 Anonymous
24th January 2021
Sunday 10:08 pm
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I thought we were playing no true Scotsman?


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